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I've seen it all to often- a white male, usually very untanned and soft looking (as if to exaggerate the point), is made to look either wimpy, stupid, slow, or all of these things on a TV commercial. The person portrayed as intelligent and informed in such a commercial is almost always non-white or female. Before we continue let me state that I have absolutely nothing against non-whites in any way at all. Some of the nicest people I have ever known have been non-white. Now continuing on, do you think that there is or notice such a media-generated stereotype of white males? I find it difficult to think that there isn't; from car insurance ads to tech commercials I find it very annoyingly present and lame. Now I obviously don't disagree that there are white males are like this, because there just are. But there are wimpy men in all races as there are strong men in all races. Thoughts? Comments?

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I am hesitant to post links to ads. That's against the rules I thought.


It is against the rules to advertise things such as joining gaming clans, not links to advertisements that can be found on Youtube. Linking them in the forums is fine as long as it is relevant to the subject at hand.

white culture


This is probably the most asinine stereo-typical description of a cliche I have seen on Armor Games.

White culture in my opinion is just things like going to the movies together on a Saturday night or a camping trip in the mountains (no offense, but I have never seen African Americans camping in my 15+ years of camping experience).


The math behind this sentence is so beyond flawed I can't even begin to explain. Let's start from the top. For one, that's not white culture (if something like this even exists). Two, there is little to no evidence supporting how "white" people are more interested in going to the movies and camping in the mountains then "black" people. Third, I am African American myself and I have been camping. Three times in fact.

Apart from these ones:


Holy crap I think I know that guy.
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White males are not the only ones portrayed as wimps or nerds (Malcolm in the Middle, Fairly Odd Parents, etc)..but they do have the more common focus to be those characters it seems.

And the reason is simple: stereotypes. When people think of "wimps" or "nerds" the common stereotypes are stuff like glasses, tucked in shirt, difficult breathing...and pasty pale skin.
Now, tell me, which race is going to be able to show off that last part better?

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Actually I think pop culture is to blame here. "OH MY GOSH NERDS ARE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUTE!" That "Nerd" Was actually a hipster, that dorky white guy with thick rim glasses, skinny jeans, converse sneakers, and a beard that has somehow become feminine.Hipster.
They make white dudes in the U.S seem like wussies. Also I have seen black guys camping (although I geuss passed out drunk on the ground isn't really camping per say.) And if anybody can shatter stereotypes it's the foul mouthed Johny Gat. Gotta love Gat, I want that on a T-shirt

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The OP has a point. In fact, the majority of the world is racist or otherwise prejudice against white people. Google is your friend. Google "Are white people" and (for me, I don't know about what you people look up) the first and ONLY thing that pops up is "are white people evil". If you google "are white people weaker" you'll get anything ranging from "white people are weak and cowards without guns" to "what white people are hiding".

I think that "black-on-white" and "white-on-white" racism or prejudice is far more prevalent than the media-plugged "white-on-black" social stigma. And I do speak from experience. I am very realistic about prejudice. The truth is, it is far more likely for a black or latino to be in prison than a white guy. Why? Because they grow up in a lower class neighborhood, have to pay bills or something, join a gang so they feel like they're part of something.... Whatever the case may be, the social status they are in affects their participation in crimes. Now before you get all hot on my *** about being white, I don't come from an economically privileged background, and I've lived in all sorts of status, from the slums of Mexico to a nice middle-class neighborhood. I live the 99%.

But I digress! Being on the receiving end of racism does suck. I won't go for the boo-hoo score and give examples, but it does suck. But in the real world it happens and you just have to move on. Unless you're a jew. Or black.

I did just go there. Let's talk about Jewish people! Sure, they were massacred by the millions, but so were the Romani, Soviets, Poles, gays (only rarely lesbians), retards, deaf people, blind people, people who were psychologically unstable, (except Hitler, lol), communists, social democrats, socialists, anarchists, Jehovah's Witness'... Well the list goes on. Point is, it was a terrible thing, and anyone who is still crying about it didn't live through it. It doesn't do anybody any good to hold onto that. They got their country, and special privileges that nobody else got. What more do they want? They got to displaced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. Although in all fairness everyone should be heaving missiles at England for putting that little fiasco through. But the fact remains, they got a country which they have to fight to maintain, but you have to fight to maintain any country. If you can't handle that, you should probably capitulate. But if you want more on the whole Isreali-Palestine conflict, good link for learning:

Okay, let's talk about blacks. Who apparently can't handle anyone but a select group saying "******" even if it isn't directed at them. Or is that the media dramatizing it? I can never tell if it's the media that tells people what they think or the people telling the media what it thinks. Okay, it's been About a hundred and fifty-odd years since they were slaves, and 50 since they got rights and whatnot. Any person of sound mind and body should have the same rights of everyone else of the same status. But what shouldn't happen is this counter stigma that seems to have sprung from the whole situation. Society can't work correctly if somebody gets the last slap. I mean, come on guys, calm the hell down. It's gotten to be where freedom of speech only applies if you just don't give a **** about your future. Just watch, when I try to run for public office the media will come out with something about me being an anarchist alcoholic child molester. Smear campaigns really grind my gears.

But too much negative vibe! Let's talk about white people. We have done some pretty ****ed up **** in however long we've been around. I mean.... We've been fighting nonstop for the whole of our existence. After all the other genocides and mass involuntary religious conversions, EVERYBODY and their old auntie expected the Spanish Inquisition. In the last 2000 years alone, wars have killed at least 218,477,200 people. Not counting unrelated and/or resulting plagues and famines, or just natural causes. And I didn't make that up, I spent 15 minutes of my life adding it up. People always act so shocked and confused when some crazy guy comes along and has mass murders and all that good stuff. History repeats itself. Don't be dumb. Don't be butthurt.

In conclusion there is a media stigma against the average middle-class guy. The working office drone. It's true. It's unfair. But the best you can do is listen to yourself, not outside influences. People will tell you that you're crazy or wrong, but very frankly, nobody cares about you. Especially if you're the building block of society. Nobody gives a **** about bricks. So stop disliking other people.

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I totaly ahree. You all know that im not a racist, and that i fight racism wherever i can, but this "white peoples are wimpy" on TV is true. Here in Israel Ashkenazim (jews from west europe, caucasians for a matter of facts) are portrayed again and again as, as masta said, slow, wimpy, weak and stuiped. Apearently they are niether gays, hipsters or just stuiped. In some cases even as the "bad guy". But to our defence, its not in the same level as in US entertaitment industery.

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this topic has loads of generalizations... loads of generalizations that has not been thought over fully. prejudgmental generalizations that are only made too prove a point.

the worst is maybe the part about "white culture".... your culture isn't based on your freaking skin color. its based on where you live. and the morals of the people living around you. for example, surely a black person will be camping aswell when he lives in a area where gone camping is part of the culture. the darkness of your skin has no effect on the decision.

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So you suggest that a family from Morroco as the same culture, attitude, belifs and goals as a Swedish family?

You cant denay that. sure that many peopels get "Global", aka americans. but most still stick with the culture of their families. A jewish kid originly west europe tend to be a better student than a jewish kid originly from Morroco, who tend to be a "slacker", go and smoke behind the classrom and carry a knife. Sure there are exeption, even many, but yet this is how it is. Its the background of the family. We kept these for over 3000 years, and i dont belive that these cultures will dissapear today. We are diffrunte. but we are all equal. and thats Ok. Its not ok to portrait black peopesl as gangstars in movies, or chinese as nerds, or jews as sily geeks, and white peopels as arrogant, stuiped high society.

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I'm telling you, it's the media's effort to avoid racism that is causing this. ~70 years ago, it would be commonplace to have a cowardly simpleton played by a black man (actually a white guy with black paint on his face and hands), a lazy ne'er-do-well played by a Mexican (who is not really Mexican), and a stupid foreigner-type played either by a tanned actor dressed in archaic Sioux clothing and shouting jibberish, or by a short actor dressed in archaic "chinaman" robes and shouting jibberish. Obviously, they can't do that anymore. The only alternative short of dropping all negative roles, therefore, is to use white guys instead.

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Ah i'd posted and it didn't work, boo.

Pretty much:

the worst is maybe the part about "white culture".... your culture isn't based on your freaking skin color. its based on where you live. and the morals of the people living around you


This ^

Irish white culture is going to be different to Eastern European white culture and American white culture. Nothing to do with the skin colour.

As for commercials that target females, there are an entirely different set of rules for those that I haven't yet figured out


I believe it's the exact same as the male theory for us women. You either love or hate them, but you're still envying or nagging about them. Either way you're talking subconsciously about the product, positively or negatively. Never thought about it until reading your post !
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Skin color is a factor in relation to your culture, and you'd be dead wrong to say it isn't. Your culture isn't based directly on your skin color, but people have the tendency to live near other people of the same skin color.

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Ok so I'm incredibly white, but I still don't consider culture to based on race. My celebrated cultures, American first Germanic second, Cherokee third (One of my ancestors from way back when got married to some white guy who showed up on the reservations.) My culture is mixed and I'm pretty proud of it even though the only way to tell is that I get sort if brownish red when I tan. I think rascism has just gone to far the wrong way. Now think about this, Your walking down the street and you don't want to be seen because if the right person finds you they will shoot you because of the color of your skin. That is rascism whether it's the south during the forties and fifties or the ghetto now. Rascism exists and it is strong and nothing can be done about it because of rascism.

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Skin color is a factor in relation to your culture, and you'd be dead wrong to say it isn't. Your culture isn't based directly on your skin color, but people have the tendency to live near other people of the same skin color.


ever heard of subcultures?
it is in some cases a factor for sure. i do not deny that. (when it is so it usually ends up in murder and war tho.)
but "white culture" is non-existing. as pointed about befor. the irish, americans and e-europeans have a mostly white population. but they surely do not share the same culture. and that alone should be reason enough to discard the term "white culture". but there is more... while the population of these countries are mainly white, there are still loads of colored people living there aswell who share the same culture. some dark kid born in the usa living there his whole live. will be part of the american culture. and not part of the ethiopian culture where his ancestors come from..
is there more you might be asking... well yea there is. there is also the part where the white and black people hang out together. are being friends together. it might sound a bit silly to you but these things actually happen. they live side by side and share their lives, making culture...
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If you take into consideration sub-cultures and cliques, the whole argument for "White culture" dies further with each word typed. Bravo Partydevil !

It also depends exactly where you live. In American TV shows that show "Suburbia" as these white middle to rich class neighbours, I believe that probably happens, that's probably the biggest sterotype of American "White-Culture" but in reality, how many of those exist and even if a lot, how many of those people strictly follow the cliche of their neighbourhood?

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No... They aren't. Since when. Wimpy looking people maybe. Strong looking, smart looking, ect. people are not portrait and wimpy but smart and strong. STOP MAKING UP THINGS AND CREATING UNNECESSARY GOSSIP!

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