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Zep0Q

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Posted August 13, '09 12:58am UTC

Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.

In the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.

Either "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.

God made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.

For those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence.
This doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.
If the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.

Every change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.
Second law of thermodynamics:
The energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.
The disorder in the universe always increases.
With each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.
The Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.

If God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?
As I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy
1#

2#

After all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.
Anyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
God is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.

John 3:16
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

Before you comment, please, read everything, I'm sure that after you read, your life will be changed.\r\n\r\nIn the following sentences I will explain how stupid is to not believe in God, and I'm gonna use logical thinking and science.\r\n\r\nEither "Everything came from nothing", like the "big bang" , witch is impossible, because nothing can only make nothing, or "Something always existed and made everything" like God.\r\n\r\nGod made this world, by this world I mean time, space and matter, so if God made this world, He lives outside of time, space and matter which means He's eternal, omnipresent and all-powerful.\r\n\r\nFor those of you who say that the big bang made the universe, I have this sentence: Nothing is the cause of it's own existence. \r\nThis doesn't apply to God, because if He doesn't lives in time, He didn't had a beginning, He always existed.\r\nIf the universe always was then, we could not reach this moment in time, if something is trapped in time, that means it had a beginning.\r\n\r\nEvery change that happens everywhere in the universe it's more closer to destruction.\r\nSecond law of thermodynamics:\r\nThe energy available after a chemical reaction is less than that at the beginning of a reaction; energy conversions are not 100% efficient.\r\nThe disorder in the universe always increases.\r\nWith each change in form, some energy is degraded to a less useful form and given off into the surroundings, usually as low-quality heat.\r\nThe Second Law of Thermodynamics is commonly known as the Law of Increased Entropy. While quantity remains the same, the quality of matter/energy deteriorates gradually over time. How so? Usable energy is inevitably used for productivity, growth and repair. In the process, usable energy is converted into unusable energy. Thus, usable energy is irretrievably lost in the form of unusable energy.\r\n\r\nIf God didn't made life, then how did non-life, became life?\r\nAs I said, nothing is the cause of it's own existence, life comes from life, your parents were alive when they made you.\r\n\r\nDid you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?\r\nI guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?\r\nGod made your DNA, of course!\r\n\r\nWhat about the monkeys?\r\nIf we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are? they took a long coffee break, I guess.\r\n\r\nWhat about the fossils?\r\nThe scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil, well here's 2 pictures with a cawboy's leg fossilized, enjoy :) \r\n1#\r\n[img]http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-outside.jpg[/img]\r\n2#\r\n[img]http://www.bible.ca/tracks/limestone-cowboy-boot-inside.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\nAfter all I have showed you, now I'm gonna say that you should accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, because He died for our sins and He didn't ask something from us, just to love our brothers and sisters and to believe in Him.\r\nAnyone can ask for forgiveness as long as he or she is not dead, no matter what they did God can forgive them, if they repent from theirs sins and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.\r\nGod is mercyful and just, His justice is not denyed by His mercy and this is the reason why God sent His Son Jesus to pay the price for us.\r\n\r\nJohn 3:16\r\n"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."

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Zep0Q

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Posted August 13, '09 3:43am UTC

BigP08, you should read the Bible, all of it.

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Pois0nArr0w

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Nomad

Posted August 13, '09 3:45am UTC

It's funny how you ignore everyone else :P

I suppose one such as you can only handle one person at a time.

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marton96

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Nomad

Posted August 13, '09 3:45am UTC

Zep my armatar could kick your armatars as*

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thisisnotanalt

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Posted August 13, '09 3:46am UTC

BigP08, you should read the Bible, all of it.

I'd advise towards reading all of it. I'd advise against following all of it(animal sacrifice is bad, kiddies). But that's just my opinion.

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BigP08

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Posted August 13, '09 3:47am UTC

BigP08, you should read the Bible, all of it.

Oh, convincing argument!

You don't know how much of the bible I have and haven't read. Do you expect me to be impressed because you are in the same belief as me? I love my religion, I love God, I love Jesus. I think about my religion almost all the time, and it is a basis for all of the morals I have. But when an ignorant Christian judges me and tells me I'll go to Hell just because of words, not actions but WORDS... I really have to wonder about my "fellow Christians".
There are plenty of Christians that I side with, and on countless ocassions I have stood by them against athiests (who are also my friends). We have friendly debates, even though we disagree. Try it, and you may just learn how to debate, convince, and most importantly, pay respect.

And if you decide to respond, PLEASE don't just tell me to pray or read the Bible. I do that already. Use LOGIC and reason.

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dieath

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Posted August 13, '09 3:54am UTC

Evolution- This is a process in witch species dont disapear but new species apear from them threw naturel selection.

What about the monkeys?
If we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are?

This is just plain stupid too say, we did evolve from them, and like all evolution the species that we evolved from don't die out because if you even know a little about natural selection you'd know that when a species evolves another doesn't end, monkeys kept having monkeys even tho 1 monkey had a different kind of animal.

[/quote]What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil

I'm not seeing a fossil, I'm seeing a skeleton. the skin decomposed and the skeleton was left, also fossils take millions of years too make, any longer and they become oil(fossil fuels)

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course![quote]

evolution took billions of years too make DNA, it took us 30 years too make a terabyte hard-drive.(Dioxibo-Nucleic Acid, right?)

and everything else you said about nothing from nothing is just confusing and that includes the question who made god? more confusing.

-Religion is also known as faith, it means beleaving withought facts, don't give facts too promote religion because they can easily be denounced nowadays and it makes it seem more fake.

'I was a christian until i reached the age of reason'-George Carlin

[b]Evolution[/b]- This is a process in witch species dont disapear but new species apear from them threw naturel selection.\r\n\r\n[quote]What about the monkeys?\r\nIf we evolved from them, why they stayed as they are?[/quote]\r\n\r\nThis is just plain stupid too say, we did evolve from them, and like all evolution the species that we evolved from don't die out because if you even know a little about natural selection you'd know that when a species evolves another doesn't end, monkeys kept having monkeys even tho 1 monkey had a different kind of animal.\r\n\r\n[/quote]What about the fossils?\r\nThe scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil[quote]\r\n\r\nI'm not seeing a fossil, I'm seeing a skeleton. the skin decomposed and the skeleton was left, also fossils take millions of years too make, any longer and they become oil(fossil fuels)\r\n\r\n[/quote]Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?\r\nI guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?\r\nGod made your DNA, of course![quote]\r\n\r\nevolution took billions of years too make DNA, it took us 30 years too make a terabyte hard-drive.(Dioxibo-Nucleic Acid, right?)\r\n\r\nand everything else you said about nothing from nothing is just confusing and that includes the question who made god? more confusing.\r\n\r\n-Religion is also known as faith, it means beleaving withought facts, don't give facts too promote religion because they can easily be denounced nowadays and it makes it seem more fake.\r\n\r\n'I was a christian until i reached the age of reason'-George Carlin

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dieath

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Posted August 13, '09 3:56am UTC

wow my quotes failed me,

What about the fossils?
The scientists say that it takes millions and billions and zilions of years for living tissue to become a fossil

and

Did you knew that a 2x2 inch capacity full with someone's DNA can sustain 6000000000 times more information then a 140 GB hard drive?
I guess you didn't knew, did evolution made your DNA?
God made your DNA, of course!

were quotes, i wrote the rest

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thisisnotanalt

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Posted August 13, '09 3:56am UTC

@dieath: DOn't even try. Tis a lost cause, my acquaintance.