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Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:10am

steevo15

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First, how would you describe color to a blind man? If this is impossible how would you describe color to a person who is not blind?

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:16am

Strop

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There wouldn't ordinarily be any use describing color to a blind man, so I would simply give the simplest definition I could:

"Color is the term for our perception of waves from a certain part of the electromagnetic spectrum. A different wavelength registers differently in our eye, though the circuitry of our eye is such that the information it receives is adjusted before and during its course through the brain."

(Having studied some neurology I could go on for hours but I know this isn't what you're looking for.)

To describe it in a 'meaningful' way would require experiential knowledge- thus this is the subject of a popular paradox.

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:17am

Armed_Blade

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You use those special glasses that let him see sound, he'll see green, you'll tell him thats what grass looks like.

Its as good as it gets, bud.

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:18am

steevo15

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Wow, I didn't know there were glasses that could do that armed blade

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:21am

Armed_Blade

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They dun work, the brain is so shocked from seeing they usually faint.

Even I know that, Strop, but that wouldn't work. After all, I'm sure the Blind man would think that your speaking science, not colors.

A meaningful way would be hard.

To a man that isn't blind, you don't need to describe colors in general, you can go all indepth and science with pigments and our eye.

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:24am

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I know eh!

Still, it'd be interesting to see if anybody here can make headway on this. Philosophers have been trying to make headway for decades, if not millenia.

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:27am

steevo15

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Well i kinda wasn't thinking about describing it in the scientific way, but describing it in the way that we commonly think of colors...Do you think it is possible to describe colors (not scientifically) to a blind man?

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:29am

Armed_Blade

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See, there should be something to put in a blind mans head where the eye's receptors connect, and from there start images. Therefor, you don't need the eye, you've got an HD-DVD set built in your head.

[As meaningful as it gets. I'm gone from this thread xP]

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:33am

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Noo, armed, come back, you don't realise what you just said!

Bionics is working its way up in that we are gaining understanding of how the various systems in the brain work. In particular, we've managed to create a function bionic limb, which connects directly to the motor cortex, because we understand how it maps.

With furthe understanding of how neurocircuitry forms and changes, we could possibly develop bionic anything (well, nearly anything). What you said actually makes some sense- in that it may be possible to give vision to blind people (depending right now on whether the fault is in the eye or in the neurocircuitry itself), and maybe even to enhance vision in seeing people.

Still a coulpa decades off, that, but it's definitely on the cards!

 

Posted Apr 6, '08 at 12:37am

Moegreche

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Well, it's pretty clear that orange is very smooslish, while green is much more clanduct.  Of course, everyone know that red is just plain giggidy.  Some colors do have a touch of glantor, though.