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turret
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I personally think that it should be legal cause it doesnt hurt anybody and everyone has the right to marry who they love.

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Kasic
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I mean how much harm is it going to cause!?


None whatsoever.

That law is for a reason. The wife- the one who takes care of the kids, needs that economic assistance.


Dontcha just love steriotypes?

For gay couples its much more rare to have (adopt) children and even illegal at some parts


Exactly how is it that adopting would be rare in a gay marriage, that's one of two options for having a kid, with the other being quite expensive i'd imagine.

And then, High School.


Because the opinion of a few snooty, arrogant teenagers makes the world go round.
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yeah true but depending on religion/culture they see that as a taboo. but in the western world your free to do as you like. Why does it bother people its not like they doing anything in front of people? they usually keep themselves to them self and other fellow gays. but the point in marriage i don't really see yeah its to people who loves each other but why get married to prove that? definition or marriage is a gamble coming from its or origin but that doesn't matter im young i probably change when im in my 30s lol.

lol how old? im 18 and even though i think marriage can be a beautiful thing i dont see it as such an important thing XD

i got gay friends and they are actually funny and down to earth people, also good for fashion tips and they know more about girls cause they more in touch with their feminine side yeah im dragging on here i'll finish.[quote]

not all of them are like that. some people who arent gay are more in touch with their feminine side then gay people. its just a stereotype. (even though i have nothing against those who are close to the sterotypes. just wanted you to know. also think about it this way, if all the gays were close to the stereotypes then all of them would be pretty much the same but taste does changes in people so there wouldnt be any or at least a few couples)
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And what rights would you want to take away?

Exactly what I said, the ability to do regular marriage and switch it with the ability to do a gay marriage that includes different laws. Wasn't I clear about that?


Again this is a fight for equal rights, that would include adoption. There are couples that can't/wpn't have kids regardless. What does I matter if the group of heterosexuals not having kids is minority? besides marriage isn't all about having kids anyway, so this argument fails on at least two fronts and just makes you look like a bigot.

Its not a fight for equal rights its a fight for economic benefits what I'm talking about - aka Money. Society throughout all of mankind history is grouped in families for a reason. Its a system that allows the man to take care of the wife so she can take care of her children. Its true also for today in most cases, woman can also work today that's true but they usually still need the man in order to have the amount of children they want and it makes life much easier both for the woman and for the children.
This economic system of marriage by the law today as I said, makes sure the man takes care of the woman but that's unnecessary for gay couples. Yes it does matter that a minority of gay couples has children and a minority of heterosexual couples do have kids because its wrong to give all the gays economic benefits only to reward a small minority. Heterosexual couples are much more likely to have their desired wanted of children if they have those benefits.


That's not always the case and there are many times when the mother is awarded custody of the children when the father would actually be the better choice.

The minority of the times can't change the law for the majority. Usually the wife Needs that money. Unlike gay couples.


The fact you went on the offensive lets me know I did something right.
Moe
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Its not a fight for equal rights its a fight for economic benefits what I'm talking about - aka Money.


You mean the small tax break you get for filing jointly? Or the $1000 tax break for each child under 18?
It actually is about equal rights, there are a ton of rights a married man and women have that many don't seem to think gay couples should have. Like the ability to legally speak for your spouse when they can't, or make medical decisions, or the right to marry at all.
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For US law I'm talking about the tax benefits. There's even some bad comedy movie about how two guys decide to secretly wed just for the tax benefits.

Moe
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There's even some bad comedy movie about how two guys decide to secretly wed just for the tax benefits.


I now pronounce you chuck and larry is the only one I know, but its got nothing to do with tax benefits.
GoblinD
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Nope its not that movie. It was some really bad movie I saw on TV over a year ago, I think it was British.

Jefferysinspiration
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@Ever dead - Yes, i'm female.

Also GoblinD, the only movie i recall is the chuck and larry one.

Also your point contradicts yourself because you said "For US law" and tried to link it to a British movie. In Britain we have different tax laws.

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I see now Jeffery.Thats why you are so sensitive about the gayness since the English society is pretty strict on the issue as far as i observe. I stayed with a family at their sixties in Bournemouth.They were even exluding them from britain and calling themselves that they are the English.

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No i'm in Northern Ireland which is part of the UK but my girlfriend is in Brighton (Gay Capital of the UK) but the English society is rather tolerant, mainly in modern society.

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Nahh, English society is pretty open about homosexuality, at least most places are these days - we legalized gay marriage back in 2005 and pretty much everyone that was against it or voiced dislike of it was shunned by the rest of us. England marches on.

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Sorry @Avorne, we ninja'd the same point :P

Avorne
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Hehe, it's alright, you got the point across - your experiences are more personal anyway :P

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New generation is open minded yes. But i was overreacted by english people when i wanted to kiss man on their cheek while the handshake. Culturally misunderstood i realized later on. Some girls labelled me as a gay since i was not into them and so on.My point is,society still not embraced gays in England besides of legalizing it.

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Akqpars - google Brighton and tell me England is not tolerant of Gays?

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