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Posted May 6, '08 at 6:59pm

daswiftarrow

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ok so i woke up this morning with my usual routine of getting ready for school, well i was listening to the talk show Rick and Bubba, and it had a recording of a news station with a lady debating with the host that horse racing should be taken out.she said that it is animal abuse, an although it will take along time they should try to make some new reforms of taking out whips, the hard track(even though if taken out increasing speed will be difficult), and many other, what do people think of it? do people think that this is the normal animal-loving person(not saying its wrong, i mean just crazy for animals), or is she saving these animals?

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 7:03pm

daswiftarrow

daswiftarrow

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this is just my belif, some peolple may not care, but i think that is a perfectly fine sport and is not hurting anything, humans have been riding and racing horses for centuries, in tougher conditions, also the lady trying to stop horse racing stated that if the horse is 3 years or younger it should not race due to lack of fully grown skeletal and joint system, actuly this may help the horse by working it's muscles and growing it to end up a better, faster horse

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 7:06pm

daswiftarrow

daswiftarrow

937 posts

well im fine with putting regulations on the horse, what my problem is she was sent to debate by some organization (cant remember name) thats sole purpose was to stop horse racing all together, while it has already been around for hundreds of years

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 7:07pm

Strategy_guy

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I think shes just concerned. The horse being put down this weekend has really inflames this issue forcing good normal people, like her, to become a little more dramatic. Now the horses body is not designed to run athese speed with a guy on top of them, no matter how light or small he is, there body is like a tree trunk with little legs to hold them up.

I'm hoping they take all practical measures to insure the horses safty but I don't know. They could do a few more things to protect the horse.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 7:15pm

DragonMistress

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For those who do not know, a horse came in second in some race, and about 10 yards after the finish line, collapsed, as both of its front ankles broke. Since the injury was so severe, it was immediately put down.

I think the real issue here is breeding. If a horse is bred for a specific trait, such as speed, other traits may not be enforced or seen as important, such as bone integrity or overall health of the horse. I think this is a serious issue and one that should be carefully dealt with by the breeders in the horse industry. It is understandable to carefully select who to breed with who, but it is equally as necessary to make sure that you are getting an overall healthy horse, not one that is lightning quick, but has unhealthy organs or bones.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 7:23pm

Strategy_guy

Strategy_guy

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Yes thats the problem with it. What they should do is like breed a horse with strong bones and speed for one generation then breed the other ones with healthy organs and some other good trait. Then breed those to horses together and you'll have a super horse.
To daswift: To stop horse racing would be absurd. No matter how hard you try they won't shut it down. Its like gambling basiclly.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 8:15pm

John

John

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Horse racing a long-standing tradition. It's going to take more than animal rights activists to shut it down. I also do not believe that horses are any more mistreating than humans are to themselves to become fine-tuned athletes... look at steroid use and dangerous weight control methods.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 10:30pm

DragonMistress

DragonMistress

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Knight

Humans inflict that on themselves though, horses have no choice.

If I had it my way, I would get rid of horse racing, but I know it's not feasible at this time. There are more important things to be dealing with than the abuse of animals, it seems.

 

Posted May 6, '08 at 10:34pm

Strategy_guy

Strategy_guy

334 posts

Although horses don't have a chose in the matter of if they get raced today we have been doing this for ages. Since the dawn of time bascilly we have been riding horses. Technacilly we have reduced the workload of horses but this is your belief and I will not try to change it. I will ask one qwuestion though: Do you hold we should get rid of the sport all together or should we just make it a little safer for the horses?

 

Posted May 7, '08 at 3:17am

Strop

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DragonMistress wrote:

I think the real issue here is breeding. If a horse is bred for a specific trait, such as speed, other traits may not be enforced or seen as important, such as bone integrity or overall health of the horse.


QFT

I think the most salient points are as follows:

* Horse racing has a very long history.

* Horse racing is a very involved, multi-billion dollar industry and is a major part of many cultures.

* There are risks involved in horse-racing for all parties involved, especially the jockey and the horse.

* The breeding industry is a multi-billion dollar offshoot of the horse racing industry as well. (Personally I don't like the way it's conducted in its entirety but this is my personal beef.)

* Selective breeding of horses comes at the expense of the constitution of the horse which increases the risks such as the one that manifested as related in this thread.

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From all this, I guess I'd sum up my stance on this issue by saying that while it'd be foolish to think one could even put a halt to the horse-racing industry in itself, that it does need a wake-up call of some sort. As far as the industry in itself, the paradoxical thing is that the horses being bred for competition and aggression is in itself something that perpetuates the sport as they're being bred towards embracing the purpose of racing.

However since I believe it can be demonstrated that this comes at the expense of their overall wellbeing in an increasing number of cases, I say that something's gotta give soon.

It's just like saying that the conditions which people need to embrace to survive in society is bad for our health, which, arguably, it might be.
 
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