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cormyn
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To avoid so many duplicate threads, please place your ideas and thoughts on a live chat system here.

Initially, we weren't going to do a live chat, but enough users asked for it that Dan has agreed, and we'll add a live chat to the system AFTER we launch AG3. It will NOT be part of the AG3 launch.

Ideas that others have suggested:
- custom channels
- password-protected channels
- kick/ban controls
- moderation controls
- report a user

We don't know yet if the chat will be Flash based, Java based, or something else.

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dudeguy45
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I say no. That's an invitation for spammers. If you wanna chat with your AG buddies, go to an oitside chat, like Counting Time.

salvation1
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there should be rules and guidlines to follow allowing a full potential on a safe and friendly chat room.

Bmaster123
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I think the chat should be like facebook. a chat bar and all the friends who are online you can choose to be in a group chat or a one on one chat.

cormyn
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there should be rules and guidlines to follow allowing a full potential on a safe and friendly chat room.


There are rules and guidelines that encompass behavior and language in our Terms and Conditions that every user must follow. On top of those rules, we write extra rules for forums, and extra rules for game/user comments. So we'd simply come up with the same sorts of extra rules for a live chat system. Failure to follow those rules could get you banned from chat for a while, or banned permanently from chat, or just straight up banned from the site itselg.
kingofwar1234
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is there gonna be a regular chat room in place in armorgames, or is that idea out of the question now?

Armen100
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Put some admins in armorgames live chat so there would be like someone to be the party pooper (Protect from cursing)

UndeadAngel
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Were the featured games bar is, Next to that there should be a chat bar, And different rooms, Maybe like one only for admins and mods, And live chat, And a private chat.

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A live chat for AG? Hmm... I don't know... There are outside chats like CountingTime or TinyChat that some AGers frequent. However, having an official chat for AG might quell some of the spam, though it might encourage some spam if it gives AP, which wouldn't be a very good idea. An official AG chat might be nice, though, because CT and TC tend to have some, uh, profanity, and don't follow AG standards tightly. Not that they don't have any authority, there is plenty of authority, there are just different rules and regulations there.

As far as a chat actually on AG, I'm not particularly excited about that. I'd rather not have a chatbar on the page, there already is a bar on the top, and adding another bar on the bottom would end up taking up a bunch of space that I would prefer to be left unfilled. One bar is enough. Besides, if there were public chats too, that would hardly leave any space on the page. The smartest option would be to make a dedicated chat page, but then you might as well use an external chat then.

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A live chat for AG? Hmm... I don't know... There are outside chats like CountingTime or TinyChat that some AGers frequent.

Oh, sure why not, let some immature teenagers have all the power to things. Redirecting people to those will result in nothing but disappointment, from my time at CountingTime they don't accept everyone, and not to mention that it's just a few of them, about ten AGers that people may or may not know since they don't post around the site often. A chat room on AG will be for everyone, not some small group of people. And if you're going to argue creating your own chat rooms, why? Why would you argue against a live chat for AG? It'll bring in a lot of people and it'll be convenient. Sure you can always create a chat room on a chat site, but it isn't going to bring a lot of people. You'll have some people there, close friends. An AG chat will be good for talking with a lot of people and if they have private rooms, it'll be good for chatting with a few of your close friends. Many people have been asking for a chat room for a while now, so they might as well create one since people like chatting.
However, having an official chat for AG might quell some of the spam, though it might encourage some spam if it gives AP, which wouldn't be a very good idea.

Cormyn has already said that chat rooms will never give AP. I mean, why? Why would a chat room give AP? It doesn't make sense. Also, you could use that same argument for the forums and commenting, people sure do spam those a lot, but they are neatly kept due to moderation.
As far as a chat actually on AG, I'm not particularly excited about that. I'd rather not have a chatbar on the page, there already is a bar on the top, and adding another bar on the bottom would end up taking up a bunch of space that I would prefer to be left unfilled. One bar is enough. Besides, if there were public chats too, that would hardly leave any space on the page. The smartest option would be to make a dedicated chat page, but then you might as well use an external chat then.

I like the idea of a page where chat rooms are more than a little bar for it. External chat? Why? What's so bad about AG building their own chat?
jeol
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Oh, sure why not, let some immature teenagers have all the power to things. Redirecting people to those will result in nothing but disappointment, from my time at CountingTime they don't accept everyone, and not to mention that it's just a few of them, about ten AGers that people may or may not know since they don't post around the site often. A chat room on AG will be for everyone, not some small group of people. And if you're going to argue creating your own chat rooms, why? Why would you argue against a live chat for AG? It'll bring in a lot of people and it'll be convenient. Sure you can always create a chat room on a chat site, but it isn't going to bring a lot of people. You'll have some people there, close friends. An AG chat will be good for talking with a lot of people and if they have private rooms, it'll be good for chatting with a few of your close friends. Many people have been asking for a chat room for a while now, so they might as well create one since people like chatting.

Sorry if I sounded like I seriously supported that idea. I realize that not everyone is welcome there, not to mention that some the things that go on in there might not be 'kosher'. Also, I am not against a live chat for AG. I just don't know how to say what I'm thinking.
Cormyn has already said that chat rooms will never give AP. I mean, why? Why would a chat room give AP? It doesn't make sense. Also, you could use that same argument for the forums and commenting, people sure do spam those a lot, but they are neatly kept due to moderation.

Yes, rather illogical. But as for spamming chats, there isn't much you can spam - if you don't allow less than seven words, you might as well use the forums; also, what's the point of a chat if you're not allowed to get 'off topic'? Of course, flaming and trolling and using profanity would still be against the rules.
I like the idea of a page where chat rooms are more than a little bar for it. External chat? Why? What's so bad about AG building their own chat?

Well, there is already a bar on the top, not to mention that the chats would take up a lot of room. If there was a public chat, it would have to be fairly large, if you were to be able to read everything everybody was writing, which mods and admins would need to be able to read and filter everything. If there were private chats, it would only add to the room. That make any sense?

Also, I'm fine with AG building their own chat, I just figure a chat would be hard to code. I don't know.
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also, what's the point of a chat if you're not allowed to get 'off topic'?

Where'd you read that you can't go off-topic in a chat? Chats are for chatting about a lot of things, there are conversations that might stick in there for a while, but you can always try to change it if you want. Sort of like the messenger on user profiles, but this is better since it's live, it's faster. I'd rather use a chatroom to talk with friends rather than exchanging messages on profiles.
If there was a public chat, it would have to be fairly large

I suggested for them to create multiple chatrooms a few pages back. Like how Kongregate has, there are 130+ chat rooms there due to how many people frequent them. I imagine that AG will get a lot of people going to a single chat, so they might as well create a few of them to start out with, then when those get full, create some more.
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Where'd you read that you can't go off-topic in a chat?

I was just quoting my knowledge of various forms of spam. I still don't really understand how you can spam a chat, though.
Chats are for chatting about a lot of things, there are conversations that might stick in there for a while, but you can always try to change it if you want. Sort of like the messenger on user profiles, but this is better since it's live, it's faster. I'd rather use a chatroom to talk with friends rather than exchanging messages on profiles.

I agree.
I suggested for them to create multiple chatrooms a few pages back. Like how Kongregate has, there are 130+ chat rooms there due to how many people frequent them. I imagine that AG will get a lot of people going to a single chat, so they might as well create a few of them to start out with, then when those get full, create some more.

Hmm... That would be hard to moderate, wouldn't it? Best way would be the honor system, but not everybody follows that. It would take a lot of moderators. Also, that means not being able to talk to friends if you don't know what chat they're in. I guess if the chats are named, it would be easier, though. You could message your friends to tell them what chat you're in.
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I still don't really understand how you can spam a chat, though.

By simply doing nothing but pressing random letters/numbers and enter? Or simply posting the same thing over and over again?
That would be hard to moderate, wouldn't it?

Yeah, which is why I suggested chat moderators, but Cormyn said no to that.
that means not being able to talk to friends if you don't know what chat they're in.

But there'll probably be private rooms.
I guess if the chats are named, it would be easier, though.

They should all have names that are listed on the chat page if they create something like that.
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By simply doing nothing but pressing random letters/numbers and enter? Or simply posting the same thing over and over again?

Mmm... I see your point.
But there'll probably be private rooms.

Private chats are nice. However, that could be messy if a million people want to talk to you. Maybe chat invites?
They should all have names that are listed on the chat page if they create something like that.

Sounds good. ... But wouldn't that mean a chat built into the site instead of on a bar? Maybe you could drag-and-drop a chat onto the chat bar or something. That could be messy, though.
Yeah, which is why I suggested chat moderators, but Cormyn said no to that.

Then who would moderate the chats? :/

I guess if somebody was acting against the rules or was annoying people, they could 'veto' him.
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Private chats are nice. However, that could be messy if a million people want to talk to you. Maybe chat invites?

I'm talking about user-made chats that are password protected so only you can let certain people in.
But wouldn't that mean a chat built into the site instead of on a bar?

Yes. I prefer having another tab open solely for chatting rather than having the little thing follow me around.
Then who would moderate the chats?

The current moderators, however, there's not enough if they make a few chat rooms, and even then, some of them are inactive.
I guess if somebody was acting against the rules or was annoying people, they could 'veto' him.

Well, that can be easily abused. You could just gather up your friends to veto people you don't like. I much prefer flagging users from their profiles. It'll show "flag this user" by "connect" and "ignore". When you press flag this user a little window will pop up so you can input your reason.
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