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Posted Aug 20, '12 at 3:25am

GhostOfMatrix

GhostOfMatrix

10,756 posts

Actually, I'm on an average of twice that daily.

I'm not saying actually playing the games. Just rating.

You were saying?

Keep going through that list, and the MONTHLY leaderboard. I'm not going to name names as that's bad conduct, but you'll see them.

Can you back this up?

Forumers, as in the regulars. Yes, you have a bunch of newbies that come around and post occasionally, I'm not counting those. Even if I did it still wouldn't make a significant impact.

WERP, AWP and Cen's famous Tavern thread are dumpster scum.

I was speaking in general. There are some jewels out there, but that doesn't mean the whole place is like that. I was also speaking about how the forum is set up, not the threads. We have several glitches that make using this forum a pain in the butt, and we are missing several necessary features all modern forums have.

How is it that they're making money?

From the ones who don't use an adblocker. You're clicking around the site and seeing ads, and that's how AG makes some money; ad revenue.

And that's also the stuff that gets *ahem* dealt with.

I'm not talking about the forum, I'm talking about comments on user pages. You have people here who have thousands of comments and they got those by using AG as a chat service, which is against a rule. Those don't get dealt with. Just look through the top 100 and you'll see a lot of people with over 4k comments. Some of them probably don't use this as a chat service and actually comment a few times a day on games or responding to messages, but most of them use AG as a chat service. There's no doubt the people with over 6k do.

As to achievements, what makes you think people won't find a way to abuse them?

They will, but it will be less than what it is now. I'm speaking from experience on Kongregate, a site with achievements and a way larger user base. Sure they get people hacking, but they have things in place to spot them, then effectively deal with them.

sooner or later someone will find a way to abuse it.

Of course, nothing they can come up with is foolproof, but they can make it more difficult and actually challenge users to gain armor points. Actually playing games and progressing to get points, instead of the easy and mundane rating, commenting, and posting, which take little effort.

My point is that AP can be more than a useless number.

A rare sight. The people who only care about gaining armor points overshadows that.

if you make a post, you get one point, if you rate a game, you get two points, and if your post was spam, you're going to lose that point sometime soon.

And you'll get points in AG3 for posting, just a different version of it. How ratings work now is pathetic. You can rate as many games as you like without even playing them. If they decide to keep points for rating, they should limit how many you can rate a day--I'd say 50--and make sure you are on the page for a few minutes. This will hinder those that just rate for points, and take more time out of their day.

being awarded "karma" or whatever they're calling it now just for showing up and playing a game or two.

It's called reputation and that's not what it's going to be. It's going to be an up/down vote system similar to Imgur. Comparing it to Imgur because they have ranks, but if you've never browsed there then it'll be similar to YouTube. Just without the ranks. When you make a post or comment, people will have the ability to either upvote or downvote it.
I understand the cons of this system, but if they restrict how much you can up/down vote a day and a notification system that tells them when there's a suspicious amount of up/down votes, this will work fine.

Achievements will be the new armor points. Not to be confused with reputation, reputation is something new. You'll earn achievements from games; check Kongregate for example.

If you're worried about punishment stuff, I read a post from Cormyn in the reputation thread that being warned or banned will affect it in some way. However since we haven't had any admin participation here in about a year, that may not still be planned.

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 3:48pm

mohammed9000

mohammed9000

1 post

I Think Keeping The Rating System  (serf, knight, prince, king, etc) is Good Because It Shows How A Player Likes Communicating.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               Thanks

 

Posted Sep 8, '12 at 4:06pm

Patrick2011

Patrick2011

2,900 posts

I Think Keeping The Rating System  (serf, knight, prince, king, etc) is Good Because It Shows How A Player Likes Communicating.

The plan is to include a ranking system, but AP will be for game achievements rather than community involvement.

 

Posted Sep 9, '12 at 12:50am

Jefferysinspiration

Jefferysinspiration

3,106 posts

The plan is to include a ranking system, but AP will be for game achievements rather than community involvement.

And I believe they'll keep the medieval themed ranking system. Maybe a few changes.

 

Posted Sep 18, '12 at 5:33pm

MrDayCee

MrDayCee

5,097 posts

Moderator

And I believe they'll keep the medieval themed ranking system. Maybe a few changes.

I can swear I've seen cormyn state that very fact back in the days when he was active, but Dan still didn't know what he wanted to do with it and what the format was going to be...

I'm really hoping they're going to keep it in a similar form of the current ranking with all the nice thumbnail images and then add some more to expand it! It was what looked nice and got me interested when I joined back in 2009. I even suggested a complete new and extended ranking based on the current one at the beginning of this thread. =)

 

Posted Oct 11, '12 at 7:29pm

nonfatcow

nonfatcow

11 posts

the armatar award system should be changed. you get pictures at the most random amounts.

 

Posted Oct 13, '12 at 3:30am

MrDayCee

MrDayCee

5,097 posts

Moderator

the armatar award system should be changed. you get pictures at the most random amounts.

And it probably will be changed with the new AG# nonfatcow, but how it's going to be and what's it going to look like still isn't clear and probably won't be untill either the launch itself or when an admin posts it in an official notification. ;)

As for the current system and (how you call it) 'random amounts' you can unlock the armatars with... the spaces between those AP counts are actually well chosen if you ask me! They have a steady increase in number towards the highest amount and make for a nice curve to stimulate activity to the user. =)

 

Posted Oct 13, '12 at 4:49pm

Armpit

Armpit

656 posts

you get pictures at the most random amounts.

They aren't random at all. 1750 makes more sense than 1700, and 375 makes far more sense than 382. You want random, convince the admins to put an armatar at 4361 AP.

 

Posted Oct 14, '12 at 6:39am

MrDayCee

MrDayCee

5,097 posts

Moderator

You want random, convince the admins to put an armatar at 4361 AP.

Why not have a wheel of fortune you can spin then?! =)

Spin it and see what it awards you with! Maybe it's a nice new armatar you like, maybe it's a terrible one... but you would have to use it anyway! Think before you play... keeps things excited! ;)

 

Posted Oct 20, '12 at 9:58am

andymaster1234

andymaster1234

5 posts

i think ghost martix idea is greatXD

 
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