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Posted Jul 13, '12 at 10:25pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

Take it to the Theism vs Atheism thread, thanks.

 

Posted Jul 13, '12 at 10:35pm

Wyrzen

Wyrzen

325 posts

Take it to the Theism vs Atheism thread, thanks.

This isn't Theism vs Atheism, it's the clarification of the creation story of the Bible and The Flood.

The term 'atheism' hasn't even been mentioned since EmperorPlapatine brought up the question about the creation.

...no offense.

 

Posted Jul 13, '12 at 10:40pm

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

Since he is well....God, he could have meant anything by the term 'day'. We just happen to assume he means a 24-hour period, or the 1,000-year period, but it could be anything. I dunno how He works his ays or classifies them.

Then why in the world would he use the word "Day"?

But it would have been disputed anyways, plus I didn't have a biblical reference for it...thank you EmperorPalpatine!

So you are giving up because it would be argued against?

Don't forget, He is deity. Pretty sure he could just snap his fingers and a planet would appear, assuming you believe in Him. If you don't, Earth took billions of years to form.

Then why didn't he? Why did he take so long, and then rest?

And I thought you said he was not omnipotent?

 

Posted Jul 13, '12 at 10:46pm

Wyrzen

Wyrzen

325 posts

Then why in the world would he use the word "Day"?

I don't know.

So you are giving up because it would be argued against?

More so for the fact I didn't have a reference, so I wan't prepared to defend that stance as much as I would have liked. I've quickly discovered the hole you dig with wild hyperbole and conjecture masquerading as fact.

Then why didn't he? Why did he take so long, and then rest?

And I thought you said he was not omnipotent?

I haven't said 'omnipotent' once this entire thread.

And again, I have no clue. He was tired? If I knew, I'd be absolutely sure to share with you and answer your questions. But I have absolutely no idea.

 

Posted Jul 13, '12 at 10:59pm

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

I don't know.

Then why would you say it was not a day?

More so for the fact I didn't have a reference, so I wan't prepared to defend that stance as much as I would have liked. I've quickly discovered the hole you dig with wild hyperbole and conjecture masquerading as fact.

Do I now? I never use hyperbole, and challenge you to find one example when I did. And I never make baseless conjectures either, you are just saying that because you don't have any of the answers.

I haven't said 'omnipotent' once this entire thread.

You just did.

And again, I have no clue. He was tired? If I knew, I'd be absolutely sure to share with you and answer your questions. But I have absolutely no idea.

He could snap the world into existence...But taking several days to do the same thing made him...tired?

 

Posted Jul 13, '12 at 11:03pm

Kasic

Kasic

5,572 posts

This isn't Theism vs Atheism, it's the clarification of the creation story of the Bible and The Flood.

The term 'atheism' hasn't even been mentioned since EmperorPlapatine brought up the question about the creation.

...no offense.

You are arguing about theistic claims according to the bible, to which an atheist (314d1) is protesting.

Do you see anything in your argument about stereotypes? I don't.

Thus, it's theism vs atheism. Ignore me though, because no one uses the word "atheism."

 

Posted Jul 14, '12 at 7:18am

Wyrzen

Wyrzen

325 posts

Well since it seems to be of such concern, get us back to the thread topic  Kasic.

And it doesn't matter if he is atheist, he isn't arguing an atheist point of view, he is just disputing some of the facts of the christian creation story. Doesn't make it atheist vs theists, especially because christians dispute this all the time.

Do I now? I never use hyperbole, and challenge you to find one example when I did. And I never make baseless conjectures either, you are just saying that because you don't have any of the answers.

What about when I said 'Adam and Eve were around 3,000-4,000 BC, and you exclaim 'you think they lived close to us?'.

No clue where you pulled that from.

You just did.

Well obviously I did right there. But I have not used it in any of my posts to defend, expound upon my argument, like you said I did.

Two things where I have no clue where you got thenm

 

Posted Jul 14, '12 at 11:14am

314d1

314d1

3,510 posts

What about when I said 'Adam and Eve were around 3,000-4,000 BC, and you exclaim 'you think they lived close to us?'.

No clue where you pulled that from.

Yes. You said the first humans where just "created" several thousand years ago, witch is extremely close to us historically.

Well obviously I did right there. But I have not used it in any of my posts to defend, expound upon my argument, like you said I did.

Fine. You said he can snap a planet into existence, is that close enough for you?

 

Posted Jul 14, '12 at 2:11pm

thebluerabbit

thebluerabbit

2,915 posts

too much to read :S

i just wanted to add that the actual word in hebrew for day actually means 12 hours and not 24 hours BUT it can also be used to talk about sunset to sunset.

12 hours=yom
24 hours=yemama

 

Posted Jul 14, '12 at 2:20pm

Wyrzen

Wyrzen

325 posts

Fine. You said he can snap a planet into existence, is that close enough for you?

Alright, I can draw the direct connection from that.

Yes. You said the first humans where just "created" several thousand years ago, witch is extremely close to us historically.

That wasn't specified, you just said 'close to us', which I took to mean in some form of 'distance-wise', obviously incorrectly.

 
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