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The netherlands actually has a fantastic adoption and foster care ratio.

On a yearly basis nearly 13,000 children find a new home through foster care and internal adoption, whereas nearly 800 are internationally adopted. LGBT adoption, made legal in the Netherlands in 2001 has had a great impact in reducing the number of children residing in temporary homes or unsubstantial standards.

In the mean while there was December 2007 a waiting list of nearly 1,000 Dutch children waiting for a (temporary family) simultaneously over 4,000 couples are waiting to adopt a foreign child.

Where is your statistics for that?

the fact that there are still alot of foster homes tell that it doesn't get eliminated. also do most people around here want to adopt african or asian children.

That isn't official statistics.

Foster care is better than a child living in neglect and a lot of gay couples also foster.

ive found something. it's dutch so giving a link is kinda useless. i'll translate some of the numbers. and "google translate" some of the sentences.

-in 2010, 15.500 foster homes adpot 24.150 children for both short and long period.
-in 2010 2.991 new foster homes are accepted. and 3.163 foster homes stoped.
-on 1 jan 2010, 15.206 children are in a foster home.
-the amount of children has double in the last 10 year.

"Despite the growth in the number of installation, there is great pressure on the capacity of foster care and is "over-utilization."

"In 2010, 36 percent of foster children placed with acquaintances"

"Foster care can be temporary or long term. Of the children whose foster care placement was completed in 2010, has 38 percent less than three months in the foster family lived, 29 per cent three months to one year, 34 percent longer than one year. Of the new placement is 23 percent and 15 percent part-time foster care crisis, especially during weekends and holiday care. Most placements, 62 percent relates to full-time foster care."

0 - 4 years: 36 percent
5 to 11 years: 36 percent
12 to 14 years: 13 percent
15 years and older: 14 percent
18 years: 1 percent

compared to some other country's in europe (there is not much info about these numbers in europe is what the site tells me aswell)
we have a realy low rate of amount of foster homes. only 0,2% of all households. it's the same as bulgaria. france 0,3% germany 0,5%

all info is coming from the "dutch youth institut" wich used the numbers of the "dutch institut of foster care"

I go back to my original point. Isn't it better for them to be in foster care?

Sure it sucks that it has to be that way. But i reckon gay couples have contributed greatly to the increase of placements, taking children out of group homes and placing them in a stable environment.

I go back to my original point. Isn't it better for them to be in foster care?

i reckon gay couples have contributed greatly to the increase of placements

anyway it's not like their is a ****load of gay's in this country that all want to adopt.

I think this is like the civil rights movement there were a bunch of people that opposed civil rights for women and black people but hey today women can get the same jobs as men and black people get equal rights. I don't think its fair to judge people by the way they look, feel, or their gender

homosexuality was normal in the roman empire and greek's and punished only when cristianity appeared and priest's began to have total control over the masses and brainwashed everybody, even now they do it,but thanks to the web i hope people are growing smarter.

homosexuality was normal in the roman empire and greek's and punished only when cristianity appeared and priest's began to have total control over the masses and brainwashed everybody, even now they do it,but thanks to the web i hope people are growing smarter.

it kind of angers me how they use one small thing in there to hate a group of people. that same book also forbidens eating pig products, shrimps, dairies and meat at the same time and cutting your own hair. people are just looking for the smallest thing and "reason" to have someone they can hate to feel superior

Well, my kind of argument, is how can the passage in the bible that argues "against homosexuality" also argue against incest.
Now in a twisted way, [not exactly what i'm into] but i mean, You had adam and eve, they had 2 sons... Where did their women come from?
I mean from the procreation terms, incest had to be the birth of the earth.

Double standards much.

I'm not throwing this out there to offend Christians. I myself am a Christian and i study it at College, but come on.

Well Priests tend to argue with Leviticus but modern examination kind of shows the only reason there are what could be deemed as homophobic verses in the bible are due to a population crisis. It wasn't that the bible speaks out against homosexuals, it's that they asked them to perhaps just not be gay for a while until the place was correctly populated again.

No offense, but how would you know how many gays there are in NL?

1. You don't know the entire population.
2. Not everyone who is gay is out and proud.
3. [I'm assuming] you're not on the gay scene.

Until i came out and got involved with the scene, i had no idea how many gay people there were in my city. And the people at the gay club on a friday are only a small percentage.