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Posted Feb 1, '12 at 11:25am

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But there could be things to do in Heaven like being an angel! If you become an angel you would help and guard people in the universe. There are many accounts of seeing angels.

 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 11:31am

nichodemus

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God has not planned for all, a plan for the whole earth no. He merly created the Erath and whole Universe and created us. So then we can make our own choices to do good or bad.


So.....how about reconciling that with the Scripture quote I gave?

But there could be things to do in Heaven like being an angel! If you become an angel you would help and guard people in the universe. There are many accounts of seeing angels.


Aren't angels non-human beings?

true story of the four-year old son of a small town Nebraska pastor who during emergency surgery slips from consciousness and enters heaven. He survives and begins talking about being able to look down and see the doctor operating and his dad praying in the waiting room. The family didn't know what to believe but soon the evidence was clear.

Colton said he met his miscarried sister, whom no one had told him about, and his great grandfather who died 30 years before Colton was born, then shared impossible-to-know details about each. He describes the horse that only Jesus could ride, about how "reaaally big" God and his chair are, and how the Holy Spirit "shoots down power" from heaven to help us.

Told by the father, but often in Colton's own words, the disarmingly simple message is heaven is a real place, Jesus really loves children, and be ready, there is a coming last battle.


Tomorrow, I shall find you the thread we had earlier, disproving this, but good night for now.

Ah, darn it. Found it.
 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 11:47am

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Aren't angels non-human beings?


Yes angels are not human beings but the human being has a spirit in it and the body of the human being stays here on earth when the spirit goes to Heaven or Hell for eternity. In heaven your spirit can become an angel and serve God and Jesus Christ's will.


So.....how about reconciling that with the Scripture quote I gave?


So as your scipture said that God has a plan for all of un already this is not true because God has done miracles and brought Jesus to the earth to spread and show us that God is real and that you have to do good to go to heaven. So this means that God just trys to guide us to do good things in life to go to heaven and wants everyone to go to heaven. But we as humans can choose to do bad and in that way God will punish us for it by sending us to Hell.

Tomorrow, I shall find you the thread we had earlier, disproving this, but good night for now.


I read the thread and understand how this story is fake thank you for bringing this to my attention. See ya.
 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 11:55am

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Yes angels are not human beings but the human being has a spirit in it and the body of the human being stays here on earth when the spirit goes to Heaven or Hell for eternity. In heaven your spirit can become an angel and serve God and Jesus Christ's will.

So, souls can become angels, or are angels souls? That would mean that in heaven when you become an angel, you loose your gender, right? Are genders therefore purely worldly things? How then would you explain people feeling themselves in the "wrong body with the wrong gender"?

Sorry, just a few thoughts popping up..
 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 12:16pm

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So, souls can become angels, or are angels souls? That would mean that in heaven when you become an angel, you loose your gender, right? Are genders therefore purely worldly things? How then would you explain people feeling themselves in the "wrong body with the wrong gender"?


I will try to answer your questions and maybe you can put in some of your views of Heaven and Hell.

So, souls can become angels, or are angels souls?


Yes souls can become angels if you get accepted into Heaven by God.

That would mean that in heaven when you become an angel, you loose your gender, right?


No, in Heaven you will not lose your gender your soul will still have your gender. Not ever soul that goes to heaven will become a angel only the soul's that show outstanding goodness and help will become angels. It is like how to become a moderator here.

Are genders therefore purely worldly things? How then would you explain people feeling themselves in the "wrong body with the wrong gender"?


Since I said that you will not lose your gender these questions are answered.
 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 12:19pm

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I have to go now but keep discusing the concept of thought of heaven and hell. Do you beleive in it?

How would it feel to live for eternity?

 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 12:20pm

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What is you thought on heaven and hell?


heaven=for non-bad (notice how i dont say good) people

hell=bad people

Do you beleive in heaven and hell?


read the above

Do you think you will go to heaven or hell?


if what i believe is true then yes. i will go to heaven and im pretty sure most of us will too

Is God really real?


read the above (id suggest you work on question order XP jk)

I am catholic so I believe that there is heaven and hell. I do beleive that you have to do good in this world to be able to go to heaven but if you do evil and bad more than good in this world I do believe that you will go to hell.


so... someone can just buy his ticket by doing good deeds without meaning them? someone can "count" his deeds to make sure he has more good then bad deeds? honestly... if there is something i dislike is the really religios people who are only kind because they want to get to heaven.

and what is bad/good? the bible gives no explanation on what that is. and after getting to know christianity deeper i saw some really horibble sides and it pretty much has nothing to do with being good or bad.

its more like "your bad but we can brainwash you".

No God is not already deciding who goes to Heaven or Hell. He decides at the end of your life when you die if you did enough good in your life to go to heaven or if you did more bad things to go to hell.


thats what im talking about. what aboud non-christians? if you are born to a catholic family then you are really lucky (which means you are a good person) but if you were unlucky enough to be born to a jewish/muslim/atheist/whatever family most chances that you will nott convert espacially when for example the islam sais the exact same thing: "only muslims go to heaven".

what about gays? they are born that way. if they are born that way how can you say that he doesnt decide who is going to hell already? and why should some lucky catholic people have an easier start then non-christians/gays? (im saying this because i know some people give the "test" excuse)

You can choose to live for God, or you can choose to live for yourself.


you just said that. you have to be christian to be considered a good person and go to heaven. god created us so we can dedicate our lives to HIM? i think that is a childish attention seeking god if that is true.

It would be too late when you find yourself in hell. You would wish you were a Christian.


and a muslic could say the exact same thing. it would be to late when you are in hell and you would wish you were a muslim. how can you know which religion is the truth then?

Many people have been to heaven or hell and back to earth. They all have the same types of descriptions.


wrong!!! could be a lie, could be a dream. it could even be the truth. but they arent the same. if 2 people say 2 different things about such an experience and they have 2 different religion you again cant say what person lied IF ANY of them lied and which religion is true. not to mention you cant prove that even happened, its your decision to believe or take them seriously but never state such a thing as a fact.

So then we can make our own choices to do good or bad.


again: gay/non-religion. gays are born that way and cant choose that. and converting in some families can result in being hated by your friends and family.

true story of the four-year old son of a small town Nebraska pastor who during emergency surgery slips from consciousness and enters heaven. He survives and begins talking about being able to look down and see the doctor operating and his dad praying in the waiting room. The family didn't know what to believe but soon the evidence was clear.

Colton said he met his miscarried sister, whom no one had told him about, and his great grandfather who died 30 years before Colton was born, then shared impossible-to-know details about each. He describes the horse that only Jesus could ride, about how "reaaally big" God and his chair are, and how the Holy Spirit "shoots down power" from heaven to help us.

Told by the father, but often in Colton's own words, the disarmingly simple message is heaven is a real place, Jesus really loves children, and be ready, there is a coming last battle.


and who can prove that? thats a story that is being told by a child. and let me guess, a child to a christian family? dreams are usually made of what your sub-consiesnousomething (can never spell this) remembers or imagines. even an atheist/jew/whatever could have a dream like that because he heard about it. not saying this isnt real.

but again, people just decided to believe in what the child sais because it has a connection to their religion. it could be any dream but YOU will be the one who will decide you want to believe in it. the mind has no limits when it comes to imagination, memory and dreams. im sure that if the child had a dream that talked more about the muslim heaven the parents would probably ignore it.

But there could be things to do in Heaven like being an angel! If you become an angel you would help and guard people in the universe. There are many accounts of seeing angels.


christians believe that you can turn into an angle? never knew that.

So as your scipture said that God has a plan for all of un already this is not true because God has done miracles and brought Jesus to the earth to spread and show us that God is real and that you have to do good to go to heaven


oh please not this one again. if god wanted to prove something he would do it now. you cant show me a book and tell me: "this story is true because this story sais so". miracles happen all the time in stories and there are many characters to witness it in the story.

How then would you explain people feeling themselves in the "wrong body with the wrong gender"?


no need to. they will never reach heaven anyway XP
 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 12:24pm

thebluerabbit

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How would it feel to live for eternity?


sorry for double. depends on the religion. i can say that if christianity is real id be horibbly sad both in heaven and hell. i dont know alot (not that i know alot about christianity XP) other religions (except judaism of course) so i cant answer.

as for judaism. its a big question since heaven or hell are barely talked about. judaism is more about life then death so i guess every jew has his own opinion on how heaven and hell are and how you get there.
 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 12:33pm

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What is you thought on heaven and hell?

i think it could be on earth. only a short part of the movie constantine

Do you beleive in heaven and hell?

well, not how other believe in them. who knows, maybe hell is a very very very cold place.

Do you think you will go to heaven or hell?

i know it after my death so i cant answer this question properly.

Is God really real?

maybe, but he/she/it could be a stone or a plant or an animal. i will know it if i go to heaven and see him/her/it.

 

Posted Feb 1, '12 at 12:35pm

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im a christian i believe in god and such but im not extremly religious to where i dont sin whatsoever but i want to go to heaven but im entirely sure i will end up in hell for the things i done and said and laughed at

 
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