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What has he done to help/hurt this country? I want to start getting into politics and I think it would be best to first understand what our current president has done to our country so I can learn from the next one. Please help me with as much information as you can.
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I wasn't really getting that impression. It seemed more like you were saying how Romney was attacked for mistreating a pet dog but Obama is just as bad for eating dog meat, so Obama would have no room to talk.
I'm saying that you can't compare the two. Obama would have room to say how strapping a dog to a roof of a car and driving off is a bad thing to do. Him eating a dog isn't a bad thing and wouldn't leave him with no room to talk.
..... Your kidding right? Obama went out of his way to stack Romney about the dog on roof thing, and Romney came back with the fact that Obama ate dog. Who is worse here? Im just saying it blew up in his face
And he did attack mrs. Romney, who is very sick. I forget exactly what went down, but I do remeber that blew up all over Obama as well.
This also reminds me of the navy " corpse" men incident a while back. And the drug thing I have said. It's just stupid little mistakes....
Also a while back someone brought up the Osama thing. Obama basically just said "do it", same as any president would have done. The armed forces were the ones really working. With the navy seals and drones and all.
And I'm pretty sure that te united states does not support dictators. This I find annoying, foreners get mad at us when we try and help, but then get mad at us when we dont do anything. Believe it or not, we are not gods.
Believe it or not, we are not gods.
*sigh
Ya, but we are still one of the greatest countries, if not thee greatest. Its like the big brother where the Younger bro claims to not need help from, but needs it anyway. So the phrase"Darned if ya did, darned even more if ya don't" works well in this case. (No offence intended to other countries here)
It seems to me that Obama is trying to pick a fight with Romney! The eating the dog thing wasn't really the best comeback of the century. And the thing about his Wife? Come on, This is a shot way below the belt! And the dog on a roof? What? hasn't anyone done anything stupid in there past? heck, I baptized a chicken when I was 4, does this make me ineligible for presidentship?
Just saying that this is kinda funny all the bickering about a dog eaten on a roof, or whatever.
Nick, please, Scandinavian's national governments are not nearly as good as have been proposed! And about the absurdness of classroom, it is nearly the same! The reason why it is a good example is because the people who work hard to earn their bread, get the same amount as those who do little. kind of discouraging to do more not less??
yes, yes it is!
And I never said he was a socialist, if anything, just that he is defiantly leaning towards that direction.
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It seems to me that Obama is trying to pick a fight with Romney! The eating the dog thing wasn't really the best comeback of the century. And the thing about his Wife? Come on, This is a shot way below the belt! And the dog on a roof? What? hasn't anyone done anything stupid in there past? heck, I baptized a chicken when I was 4, does this make me ineligible for presidentship?
Just saying that this is kinda funny all the bickering about a dog eaten on a roof, or whatever.
I don't think pulling the ''Obama is Muslim'' card is anything smarter. Nor are descriptions of Obama as ''a nice guy'' who ''spent too much time at Harvard,''. Attacking a man's education, and attacking one of America's greatest education centres at the same time is equally puerile and self-wounding.
Nick, please, Scandinavian's national governments are not nearly as good as have been proposed!
Heaps better than what America has now.
Let's see....
Norway: Unemployment 3.6%. Gini coefficient 25.
Sweden: Unemployment 7.9% Gini coefficient 23
Denmark: Unemployment 7.6% Gini coefficient 24.7
USA: Unemployment 8.2% Gini coefficient 45
Furthermore, all the Scandinavian countries still have AAA credit rating, with stable outlooks. America has an AA+ rating, with a negative outlook, meaning they are at risk of being cut further. The Scandinavian countries might just have slightly lower unemployment rates, but they have a much fairer society, and more welfare, which means its citizens can tide the crisis better, which means more happiness.
And about the absurdness of classroom, it is nearly the same! The reason why it is a good example is because the people who work hard to earn their bread, get the same amount as those who do little. kind of discouraging to do more not less??
Let's see.....a classroom comprises a tiny amount of people, people all from ONE demographic which skews things, and people who haven't actually entered the working world. In short, a misrepresentation and a poor comparison.
Let us also not forget that Santorum and Gingrich started it first. Furthermore, even Fox News thinks that Romney should be slammed for his dog's treatment.
And the dog on a roof? What? hasn't anyone done anything stupid in there past? heck, I baptized a chicken when I was 4, does this make me ineligible for presidentship?
Sure. So why are Reps crying foul when Obama eats dog meat?
Also, before you wail over the Ann Romney attacks, take a look at the attacks on Michelle. Including one on her posterior, her underwear, and her eating some ribs.
...It's NOT Communism. Such ''real-life'' examples taken to be ''Communism'' are just dictatorship which you Americans falsely call ''Communism''...
So far, as pointed out,
What you see in Russia and China is NOT Communism.
Communism has only been an excuse in which a government has used to make "changes" more appealing. communism is a experiment in and of itself, and the testing hasn't gone so well...
Textbook Communism is excellent, Mostly, as said before, it is to make the "changes" more appealing, so they can do what ever they like, but in the name of communism.
In real life though, does communism work? Not so much! So call it whatever you wish, wether communism, or pansy. Real life communism does work, but for mostly the people who have some power, while those who are poor, are really really REALLY poor.
...destroyed whatever goodwill others had towards it...
Nice generalization there...
Don't smear the good name of Communism.
You can thank China and Russia for that...
[quote]Now it is you who must read, because I never said it was bad.[/quote]
[quote]No, you have implied throughout that it was bad, by using it as a pejorative.[quote]
Implying is not out right saying it as you are saying here, but it is subtly persuasive.
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Communism has only been an excuse in which a government has used to make "changes" more appealing. communism is a experiment in and of itself, and the testing hasn't gone so well...
Textbook Communism is excellent, Mostly, as said before, it is to make the "changes" more appealing, so they can do what ever they like, but in the name of communism.
In real life though, does communism work? Not so much! So call it whatever you wish, wether communism, or pansy. Real life communism does work, but for mostly the people who have some power, while those who are poor, are really really REALLY poor.
In real life, that isn't Communism. They never attempted to move outside of the proletariat dictatorship stage, but instead converted to a full on dictatorship.
Hence describing Obama as a Communist and using it as a pejorative is academic folly and falsehood. If you want to use ''Communist'' as a pejorative, calling him a Mao-era or Stalin-era magnate and thug would be more historically true, but still factually erroneous.
You can thank China and Russia for that...
And the ignorance of many.
Implying is not out right saying it as you are saying here, but it is subtly persuasive.
Implying strongly suggests something. Nor ''subtly''. In fact, the way people bandy the word around in America, and call their more left wing opponents by the name does not just imply that the word is derogatory, but it is derogatory.
he might have partially helped our economy but he can barely figure out how to make his speeches without a teleprompter and congress is just as worthless. a poll on yahoo asked if you think congress could fix anything by november and 95% said no so i think many people have lost faith in america's government and i sure have to
One of the only reasons he won was he gave promises that he didn't deliver on. He hasn't helped our economy, and he also only won was because the majority of Americans areDEMOCRATS!
First off i have to apologize for not pulling links as I would like. I'm currently very limited to what I can do on a computer. Perhaps someone can help with that.
he can barely figure out how to make his speeches without a teleprompter
Considering the length of the speeches I would be surprised if many candidates could commit to memory their speeches.
He hasn't helped our economy,
Actually the economy is stronger. Though for the common person this has gone mostly unnoticed. (again sorry for lack of links)
and he also only won was because the majority of Americans areDEMOCRATS!
I guess that explains why most of our presidents for the past 20 years have been republican.
I think obama is a great president, yes he hasnt done some things hes promised but think about it, he was thrown into presidency while we were tragically close to anarchy and has done all he can do to manifest his promises, if he had another term, hed do it. VOTE OBAMA
Obama is a fantastic president, if he had another term hed to fantastic things. VOTE OBAMA
One of the only reasons he won was he gave promises that he didn't deliver on. He hasn't helped our economy, and he also only won was because the majority of Americans areDEMOCRATS!
Er no. It's roughly half-half.
No President has actually delivered all they have promised; we should be surprised if one ever did. Woodrow Wilson was a rather apt example.
Obama has helped the economy. It hasn't been turned around to a roaring growth engine, but it has been saved from a recession, and the unemployment rate has been capped off, rather then rocketing up constantly like Europe. That in itself is an achievement.
Not to mention hunting down Osama, successful foreign ventures like Libya, withdrawing from Iraq, healthcare that benefits most people, toughest immigration laws in ages, yet at the same time retaining such illegal talent that America needs and being the first President to soldier against homosexual discrimination.
I'm not convinced I like him because of Obama care but the recession could have been worse and Obama helped stop it with bail outs. We really need somebody with something completely different and new though.
We really need somebody with something completely different and new though.
Constantly changing your leader doesn't help, really. What you need is an actual understanding and working-together between democrats and republicans, because currently everyone is blocking off whatever the other is doing. I'm sure Obama would be much better if only the republicans were more willing to compromise.
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