Posted Jul 1, '12 at 4:06pm
I don't think you've actually been reading anything of what I said. I have not disagreed unnecessarily with what the IDF does when they fight battles; what I do condemn is the blockade, the prevention of supplies to the populace and the rest. By all means, go after the Hamas fighters, and kill the fighters who kill your civilians.
But if you're going to tell the rest of the world that the Arabs are oppressing you, when in fact Israel is the one oppressing the Palestinian soldiers, then you obviously aren't reading a wide range of news.
I am going to repeat this very slowly, because obviously you have not read through my posts carefully in your hate filled rage.
1) I oppose the Israeli Constituition being defined as based on Jewishness. Why? Because this is not democratic. Simple, and fair.
Hey, I never said you can't shoot the fighters. What I did say, is that the IDF does perpetuate oppression against normal citizens, and that is an abhorrence.
And of course we shoot terrorists. We shot a couple of Pakistani militants when they hijacked Singapore Airlines Flight 117 in 1991.
Don't know if you actually heard it, but we have had a mini-Holocaust here. The Japanese randomly picked out the Chinese males, and shot them. Go Google Sook Ching, and read about it.
You're not the only race that actually suffered genocide. In fact, I live a few kilometres away from one of the more recent mass graves of bones that was dug up. My grandparents were taken as slaves by the Japanese, and they lived through daily fear of ****, decapitation, beating, and extortion. And as much as we are Singaporeans, I'm Chinese too, and the millions of systematic deaths such as the massacres at Nanking, and the biological experiments on the Chinese people infuriate me. You're not the only oppressed race on the planet; others have had been slaughtered like animals just for our skin colour. So don't tell me that we Singaporeans and Chinese don't know what oppression is.
Again if you kindly read clearly instead of just outright excoriating my posts in such an non-intellectual way, you would realise I have no problems with Jews who have been there for generations. They own the land, they keep the land. What I have a problem with, is the fact that most of the Jews today are descended from Jewish refugees who just came in waves in the immediate waves post-WWII and claimed it as theirs. That is wholly unfair to the Arabs already living there.
It was not a ''wasteland'', there was already a Palestinian majority with a Jewish minority living there when the refugees came.
Then go on and be petulant and curse me. I don't actually think I called him a liar, and the only time I mentioned him was a long time ago; I have completely forgotten what I said of him, unless you bring up the link.
You think they're bad, I think they're methods are bad, ruthless, but they carry the same message that most Palestinians want to hear, and believe; that Israel is the current oppressor. You're perfectly allowed to think they're bad, but likelise, I am perfectly within my rights to have my own opinions, instead of you shoving them down my throat.
The Gaza flotilla does come to mind.
1) No citizen is supposed to die in war, given the Geneva Conventions. In such modern times, people and states try their utmost to stick to that.
2) I'm not sure what you understand is having ''strategic value'', but in military terms, having ''strategic value'' means possessing a key overall part to the long term goal. Yet the Israeli commanders themselves admit it was not because of strategic value that they attacked the village.
Then stop, and leave. I am simply presenting the other side of the coin; and if you can't take it, you obviously should just stay in your own insular bubble. I don't aim to cause anyone anger, but if it distresses you so much, then stop coming to argue.
Just went for my army callup and medical screening, and will begin at the end of the year. So while we're on the topic of martyrs, what else do you want to compare? The weapons? Army food? The army preparation courses I've been through already? Or are you just trying to act all macho, as if others don't do national service too?
So in conclusion, you have your own opinions, that's fine, I have my opinions, that's my business. But what I strongly encourage you to do, is actually read the opinions and posts of others properly before posting like a complete moron, and accusing others of something they have not said, whilst at the same time slamming others as ''hate-filled'' just because they disagree with your opinions.
In a nutshell, I have never claimed it was okay for Hamas to shoot people. I have never said Jews need to be terminated. I have never said Israel has to be broken up.
Wake up, read properly, perhaps get new glasses, and stop acting like a total jerk in an argument if you want to be taken seriously.
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