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I saw the first two Batman movies, and I can safely say that the man who wore the Scarecrow mask and the Joker are the same character. The same actor played both people. They look the same. I mean, hell, at the end of the first movie the corrupt lawyer guy who was making the stuff got sprayed and ran away, in an insane rampage. In the opening of the 2nd movie, the Joker was wearing the Scarecrow mask. Same guy.

You're retarded, right? If not, may I direct you to your local nuthouse.
Heath Ledger played the Joker, and most definitely did not play Scarecrow.

Boring, won't go watch it. Batman's voice is, as many have said, like gargling gravel.
And why is "The Dark Knight Rises" AFTER "The Dark Knight"? Should it not be the other way around?

I saw the first two Batman movies, and I can safely say that the man who wore the Scarecrow mask and the Joker are the same character

Boring, won't go watch it.

Batman's voice is, as many have said, like gargling gravel.

And why is "The Dark Knight Rises" AFTER "The Dark Knight"? Should it not be the other way around?

Batman's voice is, as many have said, like gargling gravel.

This one ranked a little better than the first but came nowhere close to the second.

-my opinion

To those who are disappoint in the movie not being as action packed as The Dark Knight, and therefore claim that The Dark Knight Rises is an inferior movie, you have misjudged Christopher Nolan's movie making. The Dark Knight Rises is perhaps one the best movies I have ever seen, and as such, it is a fitting conclusion to The Dark Knight Trilogy.

To understand this movie for what it truly is, you first must understand that this movie is not a movie to stand alone. This movie requires you to have watched the previous movies to experience the journey of Bruce Wayne and his rise, fall, and end as Batman. The Dark Knight Trilogy isn't three movies with Batman, they are a cohesive story about Batman, and that is a very large difference in terms of the scale of the universe this trilogy is set in, and its plot.

Batman Begins was exactly as the name implies, a begginning. You see the development of Batman, of Bruce Wayne embracing his greatest fears and rejecting them in order to begin the healing of Gotham city. As such, you have villains to reflect the disolution of Gotham, its corruption and failing. You have Gotham in need of saving, from itself. The key themes here are the themes origins and the conquering of fear. The movie is all about taking the first step on a new path.

The Dark Knight takes place a little over a year after the events of Batman Begins. This movie reflects upon Batman's fight to bring about change to Gotham, and as such, by this time Bruce Wayne has fully embraced his role as the city's protector. He fears for nothing other than the harm that may befall others, however, he does not fully recognize the scope of potential consequences, and the death of Rachel shoves him into a darkness where he is no longer Bruce Wayne, he simply is the Batman. The fall of Harvey Dent from Gotham's DA to a cold blooded killer is fully understood in the theme of cause and effect. Rachel's death also pushes Harvey over the edge, but without something else to hold on to Harvey falls into madness. Furthermore the Joker ties into the theme of Order vs. Chaos. Remember, Gotham is at war with its criminals. The Joker even says he is an agent of chaos at one point, showing that his motives are merely anarchy. When Harvey dies at the end of the movie and Batman forces the blame upon himself the stage is set.

The Dark Knight Rises is the culmination of Gotham's fight to recover from the city it once was. Eight years after the events of The Dark Knight Bruce is still trapped in his dispair, and has given up being Batman, at least insofar as acting the part. In his heart he is still The Dark Knight. Bane is the embodiment of all the previous villains. He seeks to bring down Gotham, and with it, Batman. The Dark Knight Rises focuses on what came before, how things in the previous movies have reflected the current situation. It is a movie about falling, a movie about the depths of dispair, yet overcoming those depths, rising above them. Before, Bruce Wayne simply was The Dark Knight. Yet, after, at the end of all things he becomes more.

Overall the pacing of the movie is well thought out. There is a great deal of tension not only as the plot moves foward, but also in between characters and the relationships viewers have come to recognize, and rely upon. There are moments that raised a few eyebrows, but nothing that couldn't be overlooked in the grand scheme. The stakes are high, and as a final movie they should be. However, this is not a movie to be taken lightly, there is a great deal of thematic work here place subtly, and overtly within the movie. The movie, as I said before, isn't a movie with Batman, it is a movie about Batman. This is a movie that needs to be looked at for it's messages and themes, not just action scenes.

Overall Rating: 9.5/10

I also tried to watch the Dark Knight a year ago on a 12 hour flight to Singapore. I fell asleep. First time I ever slept well on a plane.

i liked the dark knight rises allot but one reason why people might not like it as much as the dark knight at first is because the dark knight had a much better first scene, and really with heath ledger as the joker that really improved the villain, he did a wonderful job as the joker and bane, he was pretty good but (SPOILER) his death was way too fast, i don't mean to say that it should have lasted 5 minutes but it was just kinda he's there, then he's gone

~manly man

i don't mean to say that it should have lasted 5 minutes but it was just kinda he's there, then he's gone

To understand this movie for what it truly is, you first must understand that this movie is not a movie to stand alone. This movie requires you to have watched the previous movies to experience the journey of Bruce Wayne and his rise, fall, and end as Batman. The Dark Knight Trilogy isn't three movies with Batman, they are a cohesive story about Batman, and that is a very large difference in terms of the scale of the universe this trilogy is set in, and its plot.

To understand this movie for what it truly is, you first must understand that this movie is not a movie to stand alone. This movie requires you to have watched the previous movies to experience the journey of Bruce Wayne and his rise, fall, and end as Batman. The Dark Knight Trilogy isn't three movies with Batman, they are a cohesive story about Batman, and that is a very large difference in terms of the scale of the universe this trilogy is set in, and its plot.

I respectfully disagree. I have never seen the firstone, and only saw bits and pieces of the second. The great thing about them is they all can stand alone as movies, not part of a trilogy. For Thr Dark Knight Rises, one can asume Rachel was Batman's love... And that is really all you need. Other than Harvey Dent, which is explained in the movie.

Also, I loved Bane so much. His voice, his skills, his plans... I don't wanna start a ****storm here but I like him better than the Joker. His motives are better. "I'm necessary evil.." or something like that.

I respectfully disagree. I have never seen the firstone, and only saw bits and pieces of the second.

For Thr Dark Knight Rises, one can asume Rachel was Batman's love... And that is really all you need