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thugtastic
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What is your opinion on the best form of government?
Most of us live in a democratic society, but there are many who are of the mind of Monarchy, Communism, or otherwise..
What do you think?

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bigjacob
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Anarchy. Heh. Just kidding. For real..A Monarchy, even though I don't live in one. But a Monarchy with limited powers.

greenpeople2007
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Problem with a monarchy is you can end up with a non-leading type for a head-of-state.

The best is probably a mix of socialism, communism and democracy, you could vote for a leader, all taxes could be spent on the people, and there would be little governmental deficit, at least if it was a perfect world.

Squidbears
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Idealistically, Anarchy would be the best. In a perfect world we would not need protection, or a leader.

thugtastic
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Perfect Communism is near-ideal but it never works out.
I prefer Monarchy.
bugjacob do you mean Constitutional Monarchy?

pangtongshu
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One that works
/deep

But in all seriousness..a democratic-republic with fascist ideals. Yeah..tis sounds nice

Masterforger
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If it's a small country that is rather wealthy, a government that pays for itself. Governments are nearly always formed of rich people, so why not make the government empty its own pockets for the people?

Squidbears
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with fascist ideals

Just remember a quote from Albert Einstein:
Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.
and Dan Fried:
Nationalism ... is like cheap alcohol. First it makes you drunk, then it makes you blind, then it kills you.
pangtongshu
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Just remember a quote from Albert Einstein:
Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.
and Dan Fried:
Nationalism ... is like cheap alcohol. First it makes you drunk, then it makes you blind, then it kills you.


Perfect! We are getting a bit overpopulated on this here planet
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Personally my political views, simply based around my current society support a socialist democracy. However, had I the oppourtunity, I would support a meritocracy; if only because I have come toe realize most people do not care about politics and they should. A meritocracy would limit the masses and ensure that only the well informed and intelligent made the crucial descions that are needed to be made.

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i like the limited power monarchy. it has to be a democracy, 1 guy giving ultimate power over the country. that might not even suits him own needs is just bad. as for left or right winging. i'm in the middle. i have ideals going both ways but progressive anyway.

Idealistically, Anarchy would be the best. In a perfect world we would not need protection, or a leader.

Anarchy is not perfect. Anarchy is chaos.

Governments are nearly always formed of rich people, so why not make the government empty its own pockets for the people?

politicians have a job whit lots or responsibility. whit lots of working hours and be able to shift fast from topic while keeping track of them.

people that do this work should be rewarded greatly for it. if we do not do that. then why would they be in the politics? the business world has loads of opportunities for people whit such capabilities. and they will keep rewarding them what they earn.
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Idealistically, Anarchy would be the best. In a perfect world we would not need protection, or a leader.

Anarchy is the lack of government, so it cannot be the best government... besides, anarchy does not ensure any right, and over time groups of people thinking the same would form anyway.

If it's a small country that is rather wealthy, a government that pays for itself. Governments are nearly always formed of rich people, so why not make the government empty its own pockets for the people?

Because noone would want to have that job. Look at Switzerland: small, wealthy, and yet we pay our politicians (granted, most aren't exceedingly rich).

A meritocracy would limit the masses and ensure that only the well informed and intelligent made the crucial descions that are needed to be made.

And who decides who is well informed and intelligent? Theoretically interesting, practically not feasable imo.
Squidbears
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Anarchy is the lack of government, so it cannot be the best government


Touche good sir.

And who decides who is well informed and intelligent? Theoretically interesting, practically not feasable imo.


I've always thought that in a meritocracy, power would be based upon contributions to society and level of education. Am I incorrect?

(granted, most aren't exceedingly rich).

Can't say the same about american politicians
HahiHa
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I don't know, wolf's comment was the first time I ever heard of something like meritocracy. But the concept itself seems wrong to me. Yes, many people don't care, yes, they can easily be manipulated. Two solutions come to mind:

One, actually educate the people about the matter of the issues, politics etc., assuring that everyone keeps their voice no matter what. Those that don't want to vote, don't vote.

Two, you instore a meritocracy, thus stripping I don't know how many people of their right to vote, and limit the power to an arbitrarily set elite.

Salvidian
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A government influenced by Machiavelli, Rousseau, Locke, Hobbes, Montesquieu, the British Crown, and some socialism thrown in for good spirits.

Wait, we already have that.

thugtastic
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Anarchy is not perfect. Anarchy is chaos.

Anarchy has proven itself to fail miserably as everyone is equal and there is no system of government or real laws.
I personally like Hobbes and the British Crown but I don't think that many other influential characters in the French Revolution were that great. The French Revolution set the world on it's current path and I don't like it.
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