Try this
Is this a definitive measure of logical thinking? No. It's a list of organisms by neuronal density. You're trying to prove that neuronal density is proportional to cognition, which is an insupportable claim, not that the density varies between species.
Try this, or this.
This #1 is the same as above, but using mass instead of neuron count. This #2 is unclear, because it doesn't seem to have any relation to what we're discussing. What are you trying to support with this article?
[quote]Haven't looked at Africa lately?
What's wrong with it?[/quote]
There are tribes in Africa that engage in wars and petty squabbles for dominance. What makes their "tribal warfare" any more rational?
So this is where the hotspot is. i don't mean that under-developed. by "under-developed", i mean primitive.
As I suspected. "Primitive", however, is equally incorrect. Organisms that exist today may have primitive vestigial features, but their brains are functional and modern. They are therefore not primitive. You could more easily argue that humans have more primitive brains than the laboratory fruit fly, because the flies go through more than 1000 recombinations for every single generation of humans.
So, why haven't i hear about it?
It isn't exactly nationwide headline material that a chimp can match up some coloured squares.
do you mean humans? as humans ARE animals in a way
I don't, and what do you mean "in a way"?
invertebrates and vertebrates is what i meant with most. Ants don't only have disputes with other colonies, they have dispute with a lot of animals there is, like the prey they eat, us humans, and termite colonies. don't forget anteaters too, as they prey on them. And please don't say that you assumed they used non-violent ways to deal with that.
1 You seem to be a bit confused about the meaning of violence. Eating is not an act of violence, nor is being eaten. Of course, if you think the process of killing another animal should qualify, we could discuss the violent and brutal butchering of millions of defenseless livestock animals on battery farms.
2 The only disputes with humans are when a human decides to completely destroy every individual of their colony for the sake of his/her own convenience.
3 "Oher colonies" includes termite colonies.
because i can find a lot of examples to make me believe they're behavior is irrational.
This is where the issue lies. You see their behaviour, but you do not understand it. Instead of taking the time to consider their goals, you just assume that there aren't any and that it is completely irrational.
take for example, chimp's "tribal warfare". as you have said yourself about "Organized warfare is the most extreme and irrational form of violence", and tribal warfare being a form of warfare and it was obviously organized, so why would it not be the most extreme and irrational form of violence like with the organized warfare?
Tribal warfare is not organized warfare. Organized warfare is when two political entities send hundreds of battle-trained soldiers in their stead to settle a dispute instead of coming to terms rationally.
in what way? what tools that they made that can rival a homo habilis or homo erectus creations in complexity?
The bent or broken twigs used by crows to hook or spear grubs, the clubs used by some parrots to drum on tree trunks, the stones used by otters to crack open mollusk shells, the straight twigs used by apes to collect ants and termites, and the bowers and nests made by myriad bird species are the first that come to mind.
1. a clam produces pearls by trapping anything that can irritate the organism, which would be equivalent to burying the foreign object ( the "anything". is this not a form of "violence"?.
Those are oysters, but even in their case it is not an act of violence. The object, usually a tiny shell fragment or piece of grit, gets stuck between the shell plate and the oyster's unprotected flesh. It secretes a barrier of mucous which may eventually cause the formation of a pearl. It is not trapping anything, because the object is already stuck.
2. a gecko eats a lot of mosquitoes and small flying bugs and it does this everyday. isn't this a form of violence?
Eating is not violence. It is a necessity of life for most animal species.
3. a cricket in mating season would compete with each other. is this not a form of violence?
In what way is it even
remotely violent? How is it more violent than American Idol?
From your argument that human ability at logic is not superior to most animals.
Not more â less. Disbelief â credulity.
