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Posted May 22, '13 at 5:20am

Masterforger

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The wonderful 3D printers have given rise to an issue: one can download designs for a gun and print it via a 3D printer. You may have heard of this, if not, you can look up 3D printer guns and you'll find articles.
Naturally, the guns are neither strong nor capable of multiple shots, but that does not matter. You can still kill someone. Now, do you believe that when 3D printers are made available for cheap that we should slacken gun laws? Maybe the answer to the gun problem is if everyone is carrying a gun, even kids, there won't be issues. Or should we ban 3D printers and hope that these weak but still functional firearms never make it to the wrong people?

Personally, I think that the gun laws should be slackened. Once something is publicly available for cheap, it's hard to control it. Naturally, if we slacken the gun laws it stands to reason other weapons will most likely become allowed too, but maybe not.

But what do you think?

 

Posted May 22, '13 at 5:22am

Masterforger

Masterforger

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Dangit, Printed Guns AND Arms Laws. Wee typo there.

 

Posted May 22, '13 at 6:18am

MageGrayWolf

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Knight

Personally, I think that the gun laws should be slackened.


Since the whole problem is people getting guns who shouldn't have them, how would slackened laws that would make it even easier for those people to get them going to help?

There is a possibility for an actual push to tighten laws on these 3D printed guns given the corporations stand to make less money from having them out on the market.
 

Posted May 22, '13 at 7:10am

nichodemus

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Knight

Once something is publicly available for cheap, it's hard to control it.


That's not even a reason to consider not to control guns. It's essentially fostering an illegal arms trade if people can freely distribute or sell blueprints online.
 

Posted May 22, '13 at 1:54pm

infinight888

infinight888

41 posts

That's not even a reason to consider not to control guns. It's essentially fostering an illegal arms trade if people can freely distribute or sell blueprints online.


There is no way to tighten gun control laws. Once something is uploaded to the cloud, you can't stop it from spreading. Technology is going to become more advanced, and once these gun blueprints are uploaded to a foreign server, the U.S. can do nothing to stop them. In a decade, any criminal will be able to easily get these guns into their homes and all gun control becomes pointless.
 

Posted May 22, '13 at 2:28pm

Freakenstein

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Posted May 22, '13 at 2:59pm

Masterforger

Masterforger

1,856 posts

The 3D printed guns are a joke (swearing).

Let's just ignore the idea of progress, shall we?
The first guns of the world were single shot, inaccurate and expensive.
Now look at em.
Same with printers.
In the past, they ate a man's wallet and were not perfect. Now you can buy a decent one for less than 100$.
It's all a matter of time.
 

Posted May 23, '13 at 2:07am

TheGenovesan

TheGenovesan

66 posts

The 3D printed guns are a joke (swearing).

These guns are something that should be worried about. As masterforger has said, printers will become cheaper, gun models will become more effective, and it'll all go downhill from there. This article you've shown in my opinion only really outlines three issues, most of which can/will most likely be fixed with the newer models of the gun. It's only got one shot, it's expensive to get a printer that can print a decent quality one and legal issues with it. Things like accuracy and it's look are not big issues, as it would still put a decent hole in a man at close range, achieving its purpose. It doesn't matter that it doesn't look scary, if it can put a hole in someone then people will be frightened by them. A couple of those guns wouldn't require a big amount of effort to bring onto a plane, and those tiny little bullets don't make it much harder. Someone needs to figure out a solution soon before some idiots try taking over a plane with them.
 

Posted May 23, '13 at 5:17am

nichodemus

nichodemus

13,476 posts

Knight

There is no way to tighten gun control laws. Once something is uploaded to the cloud, you can't stop it from spreading. Technology is going to become more advanced, and once these gun blueprints are uploaded to a foreign server, the U.S. can do nothing to stop them. In a decade, any criminal will be able to easily get these guns into their homes and all gun control becomes pointless.


Yes, but we can monopolise gun blueprints. Not everyone knows how to make sophisticated guns, which are largely confined to those in the arms industry. Stopping these people from uploading blueprints, and cracking down hard on people who upload half-baked ones can provide enough a control.

Just because something cannot be easily controlled doesn't mean we should not, and cannot try to.
 

Posted May 23, '13 at 6:08am

partydevil

partydevil

5,248 posts

There is no way to tighten gun control laws. Once something is uploaded to the cloud, you can't stop it from spreading. Technology is going to become more advanced, and once these gun blueprints are uploaded to a foreign server, the U.S. can do nothing to stop them.

1. yes it can be taken of the cloud if it must be taken of by law. if it doesn't happen then eventually the cloud has to go down. or the owner of it keeps paying a ****load.
2. if the owner of the cloud is on usa ground then it has to keep itself in line whit the usa laws. no matter where the data in his cloud is stored.

In a decade, any criminal will be able to easily get these guns into their homes and all gun control becomes pointless.

what isn't really a problem for the usa. their gun control is pointless as we speak. it's more a problem for the civilized world.
 
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