ForumsWEPRAnyone else feel like Anonymous is just a big joke/fake?

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redfan45
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I can't be the only one who doesn't idolize them? If they even exist.
I would not be surprised if their true self has been long dead, and they are just another government infiltrated puppet. Just like Occupy Wall Street.
Sure there are probably some honest members, but I feel like the ring leaders are just controlled by the CIA or NSA. Now days anyways. Any thoughts?

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nichodemus
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it is. who are they to make laws for the world?


Because it concerns their own legal system. I would support the bill if it meant stronger negotiations and cooperation with foreign agencies concerning foreign based websites, however, theft is still theft, whether it be American or British or Polish or Chinese.
partydevil
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Because it concerns their own legal system. I would support the bill if it meant stronger negotiations and cooperation with foreign agencies concerning foreign based websites

i would agree whit it if it only concerned their own legal system. i didn't see negotiations or cooperations tho. i did see concerns.
MageGrayWolf
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Immensely stupid moves, since these acts had clauses that were beneficial overall. Anonymous was basically supporting theft.


Those bills didn't offer benefits to the people. As for the theft, it really isn't as big of an impact as these corporations like to make it out to be. More so these corporations that have been the most vocally against online piracy are the one who initially provided the software to be used in just that fashion.
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The argument really is between those that doubt the extent to which Anonymous can reach, and the rest of us.
I agree, and i can't say much about it because I haven't any proof.

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Funny, first time you ever needed proof before starting a rant.

On topic though, true hacking is illegal(you can consider various interpretations of hacking, suit yourself) but is being done quite often and now anon has just turned into another blown up hype, but who really cares. The ones shouting all this we are anonymous crap aren't really the ones we should be aware of, sure there these are mostly just "kids" looking for away to get attention and the rare decent, and i use that term loosely, hacker somewhat contributes to society.
No this is not a case of importance it's the ones that remain hidden, the true eletists that dwell in far more murkier parts of the web that we should be looking for, not some teens hyping the fact that they can turn on a pc.

Apologies for any mistakes i might've made, English is not my native language.

pangtongshu
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pipa and sopa have also been stopped because other countries didn't like the usa to censure the i-net. fine if you wanna censure it but do it like china. dont bother the world whit it. anonymous role here was just being a attention seeker. you think a government really gives in to something like anonymous? thats pretty naive..


PIPA and SOPA were exposed for what they are by Anon, then it spread to major websites

(dunno what cispa is)


That's good.
It was PIPA and SOPA v2

the old? and how many of the old are there?


I have no clue what their numbers are..but they are the ones that are much more of a threat. At least..to individual people.

They've ruined a few lives, in short. They just don't care about the same issues that same issues as the other Anonymous

4chan, which was mostly based upon underaged pornography


Ready for some irony?

Though..wrong choice of mask -_-â¢
nichodemus
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Those bills didn't offer benefits to the people. As for the theft, it really isn't as big of an impact as these corporations like to make it out to be. More so these corporations that have been the most vocally against online piracy are the one who initially provided the software to be used in just that fashion.


It benefits artistes. And it benefits corporations, who are still people.
partydevil
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It benefits artistes.

but not creativity.
these corporations that have been the most vocally against online piracy are the one who initially provided the software to be used in just that fashion.

so true. but not only software. hardware aswell. just look at a simple mp3-player. it encouraged us to throw the disk-player away. even if it was just for the size of it. and your disks not getting beaten up and breaking.
or the mp3 applications for phones these days. they dont say. go to a store and buy our album, anymore.
nichodemus
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but not creativity.


It doesn't stifle creativity. It makes it less tempting for people to illegally pirate material. In fact, we can make the case that it might promote creativity, by ensuring that artistes will get paid.
partydevil
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ensuring that artistes will get paid.

that time is over. no matter how much we would like it to return back. it wont.
as long there is youtube people can rip and pirate w/e.
the only real way to ensure they get paid is for them to do shows and other media promotions. or make youtube payed. but that will lead to them shrinking down and a other site tot pop up.
nichodemus
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that time is over. no matter how much we would like it to return back. it wont.
as long there is youtube people can rip and pirate w/e.
the only real way to ensure they get paid is for them to do shows and other media promotions. or make youtube payed. but that will lead to them shrinking down and a other site tot pop up.


The music industry is still booming despite the advent of Youtube; just because there exists an outlet for piracy, does not mean the rest should not be cracked down on.
MageGrayWolf
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It benefits artistes. And it benefits corporations, who are still people.


Yet these corporations make it out as if it's a bane to their existence.
partydevil
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just because there exists an outlet for piracy, does not mean the rest should not be cracked down on.

your free to try if it doesn't harm me.
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I read somewhere (I can't find the link at the moment) that Anonymous exists solely "for the lulz." Basically, it's a bunch of bored, jobless fools with too much time on their hands.

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I read somewhere (I can't find the link at the moment) that Anonymous exists solely "for the lulz." Basically, it's a bunch of bored, jobless fools with too much time on their hands.


That would, more or less, describe "old" anon.

For the most part, no real agenda. But when they do gain one, they know how to control it.
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