so in short. the battle isnt atheists vs. theists. its actually close mindedness (real word?)/fear/subjectiveness (again... real word?) vs. logic and objectiveness.
its just that most theists belong to the first group and most atheists belong to the second so it makes it seem that way.
i didn't expect you to come up whit global warming...
seeing most of the americans think global warming is nothing to be concerned about or even think it is just a hoax or a international conspiracy against the usa... xD you would fit in their perfectly. and yet....
I haven't been on, so I'm not gonna bother readin your comments. But I gave proof showing that they're using poison, which comes down to us.
First link doesn't give us conclusive evidence that such aerosols have already been sprayed. It does try to do so by quoting people, but that's no evidence. Besides, I don't trust that site run by one guy with a lot of conspiracy-looking links on the side. It even sounds as that guy doesn't believe in global warming. On emore reason not to trust him.
Second link is too long so I won't read or comment the content. Just note that it is once again one guy making assumptions. The photo labeled "chemtrails & contrails over Europe", to me, shows how assumptive this is; how can you make such a distinction on that photo?
Third link also denies global warming, and states it is a scam used to legitimate spraying chemicals. Same thing with pictures labelled as if it were true (again, how do they see those contrails contain chemicals? Or what would their orientation prove?). Note here that this is a site built on the sole purpose to propagate such ideas. Would you trust that?
Third link also denies global warming, and states it is a scam used to legitimate spraying chemicals. Because it is! Global warming is made up, and they're just spraying our food, water, and ourselves, with the excuse of global warming.
Global warming is a fact, and accusing us to use that stock photo with the polar bear on an iceberg as evidence is plain ridiculous. But let's discuss this in another thread, shall we?
Can you explain to me how you can see the difference between chemtrails and contrails on a photograph? And can you explain to me how the orientation of the trails reflect a planned spray and not travel routes converging to airports?
see that ice? it looks good right? beautifully blue. you know, this ice is millions of years frozen under 2miles of ice in greenland. and the reason we can see it now after such a long time is global warming. the earth gets hotter and colder in a cycle thats true. but the earth always had a certain turning point. because of what we as humans (all humans, not just you americans) ask from the earth today. it's natural cycle go's off balance. causing the earth to become warmer. (on avarage, not only your local area where it still snows in the winter.) it just happens to be that we live in a time that the earth naturally would cool down entering a new cold period for the next several thousands of year. however. it's not doing so. it might just be late. but it can also be all of us. and sofar research has pointed out that we certainly are a cause for it.
see that ice? it looks good right? beautifully blue. you know, this ice is millions of years frozen under 2miles of ice in greenland.
maybe i made that jump to fast for you. let me explain:
if you take normal ice then that is clear or white. right? if you press that ice by... i dont know, maybe 2 miles of ice. then the pressure on the ice will cause it to meld again because of friction between the water molecules. if that friction is later lost (much like the earths plates). and the pressure stays. then it will cause the pressed water to freeze again, but way more compact then near the top.
this more compact ice is blue because it absorbs both red and yellow light entirely. leaving just blue behind. as can be demonstrated whit a color spectrum.
Third link also denies global warming, and states it is a scam used to legitimate spraying chemicals. Because it is! Global warming is made up, and they're just spraying our food, water, and ourselves, with the excuse of global warming.
That makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
Oh an since you probably didn't read it. "Declan, You say you do like science and I assume you accept that good science should be impartial. So for this exercise I would like to propose I would ask of you for the sake of impartiality that you set aside what you believe.
Now for the exercise. We will use this statement of yours "I also believe that the sun and moon revolve around the earth."
What I want you to do for this exercise is to provide me with the evidence for a heliocentric solar system as apposed to a geocentric one.
Again this is only an exercise, a thought experiment if you will. I'm not expecting you to believe any of it. Only that you demonstrate it as a good scientist challenging his own views would."
Because if you look at the history of the world you will see over the past few million years that the planet's temperature fluctuates dramatically. We may be going into a warm period but an ice-age will follow.