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kiddslayer12
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I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.

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Talo
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If you are going that route, you could say the same about your religion. You can prove anything other than something you read in a book.

samy
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If you are going that route, you could say the same about your religion. You can prove anything other than something you read in a book.


Same thing could also be said about atheism or whatever you believe.
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Alright, this is the one common myth about creationism, everything all the organic species we see werent here in the beggining according to creationism. Humans were so were dogs but there were just one species of them. Now they didn't evolve, they just had the dna already inside them, it got shuffled switched and deleted over time but no new dna was created.

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Now they didn't evolve, they just had the dna already inside them, it got shuffled switched and deleted over time but no new dna was created.


...that's exactly what evolution is. No new strands of DNA are created, but different chains are.
samy
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...that's exactly what evolution is. No new strands of DNA are created, but different chains are.


No it's not new Dna has to be created according to evolution we came from nothing to everything we see today DNA had to be originaly created and new must be formed.
Talo
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For some one who blindly believes something he has never seen, you sure do ask for a lot of proof. By your standards, you can't prove anything.

Talo
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In your own religion there has to be evolution. You know how many types of insects and animals there are in the world? Do you really think Noah took 2 of each? The mass of animals and food required would be so large that you couldn't support them without a small country. It's obvious your religion believes that there were only 2 of each type of animal, and that they evolved into different species after.

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it's not about what Noah did to animals
it's about christianity and atheism

the question is
could someone prove that there's no God at all?

if you're thoughtful, not non compos mentis and think logical you may find that it's impossible to prove the nonexistence of a supreme being

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if your gonna start onpoor old noah ( he was about 600 whent he flood came) you might want to know this:
1. The ark had a volume of 15 million cubic feet.
2. Theories on the logistics of the ark suggest it could only hold about 1000 animals.
3. These animals would have had to live in complete darkness while on board because "wild animals prefer the dark"
4. Animals would have to be perfectly arranged to avoid capsizing.
4. He would have had to keep seeds preserved which would not have survived a flood.
These are all based on Buteo's plans for the ark.
5. Realaisticly he would have to accomadate 10 million animals. leaving each animal 0.5 cubic feet each of space (ok if you a mouse but less so for an elephant)
6. Noahs family would have had to look after 1 and a quarter milliona nimals each.
7. To feed them they would need to feed 115 anials per second. Each with individual needs.

As you can see the logistics of such an idea are truly extraordinary. This is obvious proof of Gods awesome majesty or that the bible tells a few fibs exagerating a bit.

Meanwhile the idiotic theory of evolution how speies can vary and improve to fit suroundings. scientist have founf the gene for tails in human beings (except it is turned off, obviously). Scietists also implanted the gene for a mouse eye into a fly and a perfectly normal fly eye grew, showing just how close we animals are to each other. Afterall we are closer to chimps than dolphins are to porpoises.

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Do you know how evolution came to be? Or even how the planet became habitable?

Well, to find this out you have to go way back, way way back.

Before actual earth became habitable-
Theory of collision with another dwarf planet, such friction caused massive heat. Which made volcanoes magma and such.
-> A slight toxic atmosphere is formed

4.5 billion years ago-
Resources such as water [From comets etc.] and other things, such as gas elements [ex. carbon dioxide] gave the basic building blocks for amino acids.

Chemical reactions put together all these acids, forming proteins. Which soon became the first organisms [bacteria].
->Bacteria caused great changes by adding oxygen to the earth. A atmosphere was made and oceans where soon built.
->Islands with volcanoes grew together into stable continents, to which the first land creatures soon occupied.

Few billion years ago to now-
Well, simple chemical changes in animal DNA, caused new species to form and branch off.
->Many animals
->Life occupying Earth now!
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YAY!

Boring I know, but hopefully you will just see why I believe the evolution theory, not pushing it to other people, just showing my side of the story. . . er. . . debate.

Got the idea, and info. . . here!

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now, I don't want to really contribute to this thread just get you thinking: Where could it all come from? before the "big bang" before there was ANYTHING in the universe, Where did it all come from?


on a completely other note: Ther is no hard evidence to 100% prove evolution, there never can be. also, Scientists didn't match ALL of a chimps DNA with ALL of a humans DNA and come up with anything close to a match. I believe that the whole match thing came from a small portion of chimp DNA coinciding with a small portion of Human DNA.

And evolutionists have to deal with the whole irreducible complexity issue (you know the little motor thing used for propulsion in some bacteria used as an example for this?) cells are really fricken complex too, not simple at all (just take biology and you'll see =D)

Thanks for taking the time to read my misinformed rant. I will leave you with this: don't complain about my capitalization please, my keyboarding skills aren't too good.

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Why argue about religion on a forum for a game site.. people have their own opinions on life, I'm a Christian and if you don't wanna be religious or anything that's your choice. No need to get all ticked off and try to debate about whose right or wrong, we'll all see what happens when we all die now wont we?

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Choazmachine: Water and carbon dioxide are inert chemicals. How could they have reacted to form amino acids? Furthermore, how would a catalyst be powerful enough to kickstart the reaction but not destroy the newly created amino acids?

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Choazmachine: Water and carbon dioxide are inert chemicals.


Water and carbon dioxide are not exactly "inert". Carbon dioxide is water soluble and can react with water to form carbonic acid.
choazmachine
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Consult the ORACLE! Or the website I provided with that last post... It worded things better due to the fact I wanted to make a comment not an essay.

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