I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
drschust: I've never come across that problem, but if my faith and logic disagreed, I'd go with my faith, because there's more to count on than just assuming I'm right (which might seem like the definition of faith, but constantly switching faiths to fit your logic seems a bit eratic, while constantly switching logic to fit your faith sounds more like learning).
I've never come across that problem, but if my faith and logic disagreed, I'd go with my faith, because there's more to count on than just assuming I'm right (which might seem like the definition of faith, but constantly switching faiths to fit your logic seems a bit eratic, while constantly switching logic to fit your faith sounds more like learning).
If my faith and my logic didn't agree, I would do the exact opposite. If it is quite apparent that your faith can be disproved by sound science, you are believing in something pretty pathetic. Fortunately, Christianity is not like that.
What if God made it so science would seem to disprove Christianity? After all, it is interpreted by human beings, whom aren't perfect. That's what I mean by assuming I'm right.
What if God made it so science would seem to disprove Christianity?
Like God putting fossils all over place? Or fish skeletons at the top of mountains?
The idea that god might be playing tricks on us always worries me (ok it doesn't me cos I don't think he is real but hypothetically speaking) a bit of a prankster God though of course he has a divine plan right
BigP08, you're a fool is the best I can get from that Quote, Faith is just a belief with High Morale, mostly anyway, you have faith in god which means you would betray your logic which I know is much more likely than a higher being since the beginning of time decided to make a world with this that and the other, I have more chance of believing the South Park where Aliens put all different races together on Earth and we're a reality show, that makes more sense to me than 'God', because the only Gods I have is Bruce Lee, Joan of Arc, Saladin, Dave Allan, Me, because of their principles and honour, alot of people, or most have no sense of honour or principles at all, exept the Chinese and Japanese, mostly the Asians like that, so S. Korea, N. Korea, China and Japan would be the most honourable people on earth, because well, let's face it, they have discipline, the right of mind, no crime, intelligence, most exports in the world, they have so much that no one thinks of that's so simple, they're like the best guys in the world, without a doubt, but either way I went off-topic, from what I said earlier Christianity (And any other Religion for that matter) is a lie, Big Bang bang's your theory to the Core! lol
Faith is just a belief with High Morale, mostly anyway, you have faith in god which means you would betray your logic which I know is much more likely than a higher being
If you don't have faith in religion, then of course I'll seem stupid to you. But logic isn't necessarily right, since people have logically made wrong conclusions. You haven't had faith in a god, but you have had faith in atheism, I assume. That same faith is what I have in Christianity. I'm not trying to convert you, only to make you understand what I mean.
Bad logic isn't necessarily right is what you mean there. An example of bad logic: Zebras don't have fins. Hippos don't have fins. Therefore, Hippos are zebras. If your logic is correct, your conclusions will always be correct. That is why I would rather rely on proper logic than faith. If Christianity is ever proved to be wrong through good logic (and I doubt that will every happen), I will switch to believing something else.
What if God made it so science would seem to disprove Christianity?
He didn't. Humans just interpret different things in the wrong way.
People don't know if their logic is correct, though. How do you know that the logic you use is good logic? I think if you have no faith (which I'm not saying you have no faith) in one thing and only follow logic, it becomes hard to look at the opposite logic objectively because all logic is presented in support of itself, plus you are also questioning what you believe in. Anyway, though this forum is Christianity vs Atheism, not Logic vs Faith. Like you, I find that both are important.
What I find is that your logic should support your faith and vice-versa. This is the simplest terms I can put this whole idea into.
Also, I think it's useless to argue with some one with conflicting beliefs who will never change their mind. No one is going to achieve anything. It's pointless.
@smithrope: That's a stupid thing to say. Atheists believe in something' the lack of the existence of God. That's like me saying that there's something wrong with Christians because they believe in a 3,000 year old book. Respect the beliefs of others. People won't accept such drivel here -_- --------- Both Christians and atheists are too faithful for me, so I choose my own beliefs; a belief that is not shared by anyone else, or so I presume. Refer to page 36 for more.
I believe pretty firmly that religion is exclusively a psychological construct, but that there is some sort of higher power, though not necessarily a God at all. Something. . .different.
