I am a christian, i and i strongly belive in my lord jesus christ, and i also belive that if you belive in him and except him as your savior, u will go to heaven. and i also believe that he created the world, not the big bang, or that we came from stupid apes.
@firefly: Sometimes, I feel as though i don't take my own belief seriously. . .lol.
When you explained it to me a while back it did seem a tad farfetched..
I guess you could say it's kind of like hoping for the best.
That seems like a watered down version of Pascal's Wager, which in my mind doesn't hold up too well. For one thing, if God is omniscient, he would know you only believe to save your butt from the fiery torments of hell, and so would not grant you access to paradise.
Also, assuming that God is real, I would have thought he would respect someone: an atheist who thinks critically, much more than a Christian that goes on faith and fear.
@firefly: Yesah, it was far-fetched. . . . -------------- I don't think Pascal's Wager holds up. . .at all. Isn't it a Christian virtue to genuinely accept God? If you go Christian on Pascal's Wager, then you could probably still go to hell, because you wouldn't be truly accepting God. Sort of like a beautifully wrapped present that contains a craggy rock or an empty bottle of Mountain Dew or something.
i dont know if any body has said this yet but. the problem with Antheist is that they have nothing to really lokk up too. also they think their isnt a afterlife well that would be miserabl. you die and you are nothing. absalutely nothing. thats sounds fun
@christianboy: That argument is used often, and quite frankly, doesn't work. Atheists believe as they do because they think it is the truth, and they look up to life in general (unless said person is a pessimist) and also, consider this. What would be worse, not looking up to an afterlife, or hoping for utopia and ecstasy all your life, then being let down tremendously at death?
Yes... ceasing to exist doesn't sound fun. Compelling argument as to why it's not true. I disagree anyway. If I cease to exist, I won't be around to care.
People starve every day. Not fun.. but it still happens.
@hidden: If you were talking to me, then it is because of my absorption with writing literature~ ------------ That is a good point, hidden. There is no suffering if you cease to exist, because you will have no cognitive registration of your existence-and your consciousness won't be around to convince you that you're conscious.
I dont see how you can compare them because Atheism is only the belief that there is no god so an Atheist can hold a variety of beliefs and moral. Were as Christianity has a much more diffend beliefs. So i will write this are Christianity representing belief in god and not just Christianity
I think that both Christianity and Atheism are both inherently flawed. Christians say there is a god but dont have anyway of proving that is true. On the other hand Atheists say that there is no god but they have no proof that god doesnt exist. I think anyway of living you life that built around the existence of a god is flawed because it is impossible to know and what if what you believe is wrong I mean the Mayans used to go to war to capture for sacrifice, their entire culture was built around this. They used to think that a sun would die with out human blood. And all of those deaths were useless.
@christian: One other thought. I don't mean this offensively, but that argument makes Christianity seem like some sort of narcotic. . .escaping the sad truth, or rejecting it or not believing it, and relieving the pain of the lingering doubts in your mind. ---------- @causasiafro: Moe said something about why atheism doesn't need proof for it's statement in comparison to Christianity somewhere back. . .all beliefs are mist likely flawed, not just Christianity, but once again, tat is not something that can be proven.
Actually no, I didn't see you post before I put that. My 'elegantly worded' was a barbed saracastic remark at the atrocious spelling & grammar of the post above yours. I can abide a couple of mistakes, but that was pretty bad.
@ Caucasiafro - flip back a few pages & read over the posts I made regarding "Burden of Proof". I don't feel like typing it out again; responsibility does not lie with the atheists for proof.
@hidden: Oh well. *shuffles dejectedly away* I was wondering which one you were rreferring to. . .I caught the sarcasm in response to him. . .but wasn't sure. . .lol. (I type 'lol' quite a bit.) :3 You see, I am a grammar Nazi and a spelling Nazi. End of story.
