ForumsWEPRWhat did you think about the whole Phil Robertson thing?

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caiteyd13
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Personally I believe that A & E by suspending him violated his right to freedom of speech. What do you think?

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Devoidless
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You people need to go into more detail about the topics you are talking about. Just posting one or two sentences assuming everyone knows what you are talking about isn't acceptable.

Describe the situation, add relevant links. People can not discuss something when it's not clear what is being discussed.

Fiends
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I think he's right, this censorship has gone too far that now the creator of Duck Commander gets suspended? It's ridiculous. Although i bet the minorities think he deserved it.

Drink
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who is phil robertson? what did a & e suspend him from? i have no idea what you're talking about. a link would of been nice

Fiends
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Peasant

Duck Dynasty fans know what OP's talking about.

stinkyjim
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Duck Dynasty fans know what OP's talking about


Ooooooh! You guys are talking about the rich white "redneck" who got kicked off the "reality" television show for saying some offensive stuff about practically every group of people. Well he's back:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/27/phil-robertson-back-duck-dynasty_n_4509697.html?vm=r&s=1

If you want my opinion, hate speech should null the freedom to speech. A & E shouldn't have brought him back. Nobody should have the right to slander groups of people.
SSTG
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Duck Dynasty fans know what OP's talking about.

It's amazing the CRAP they show on TV now.
Even though I try to avoid the show, everybody's talking about it.
What's wrong with people? What's so exciting about watching some hicks who don't believe in shaving? Do you guys also watch Honey Boo Boo?
Jeez!
nichodemus
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If you want my opinion, hate speech should null the freedom to speech. A & E shouldn't have brought him back. Nobody should have the right to slander groups of people.


I second that. Your freedom to slander and hurt someone infringes upon their freedom to not bear with your drivel.
MageGrayWolf
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Personally I believe that A & E by suspending him violated his right to freedom of speech. What do you think?


In what way did they do so? Was he suddenly not able to speak his mind by being suspended from the show?

5 Things To Remember When Discussing This Duck Dynasty Mess
A&Eâs Decision to Suspend Phil Robertson Is Not a Freedom of Speech Issue
When You Defend Phil Robertson, Here's What You're Really Defending
nichodemus
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Grand Duke

Good sensible articles Mage, especially the first one.

Fiends
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It's amazing the CRAP they show on TV now.
Even though I try to avoid the show, everybody's talking about it.
What's wrong with people? What's so exciting about watching some hicks who don't believe in shaving? Do you guys also watch Honey Boo Boo?
Jeez!


That's the typical closed-minded mentality you guys have, you see a person with a heavy country accent and immiediately think it's "crap". And no, we don't watch honey boo boo. You should watch it sometime, instead of watching big brother or whatever.
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That's the typical closed-minded mentality you guys have, you see a person with a heavy country accent and immiediately think it's "crap". And no, we don't watch honey boo boo. You should watch it sometime, instead of watching big brother or whatever.

I don't watch any of those reality crap shows because it's all garbage designed to make people dumber than they already are.
caiteyd13
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Duck Dynasty is a show big on family values and religion. The A&E network wanted them to cuss and scratch their butts because they thought that's what America would like. In fact what he says is not a hate speech if you read the whole page of this article http://www.gq.com/entertainment/television/201401/duck-dynasty-phil-robertson?currentPage=2 you see his entire opinion. He explains that it is not humanitys job to judge people it's Gods

MageGrayWolf
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We never, ever judge someone on whoâs going to heaven, hell. Thatâs the Almightyâs job. We just love âem, give âem the good news about Jesusâ"whether theyâre homosexuals, drunks, terrorists.


No we don't judge we just compare homosexuals to terrorists. You're like a terrorist, can't you feel the love in that?
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I don't know enough about that A&D and DD thing to really jump into the debate. But I would agree with what was stated in Mage's first link: You can't just say anything you like and assume there will be no consequences.

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Personally I believe that A & E by suspending him violated his right to freedom of speech. What do you think?


As Mage asked, in what way did they do so? He is still able to express his mind and his viewpoints.
A&E were also using their freedom of "speech" (to be loose with the term) by firing him and showing that they do not tolerate such words.

Keep in mind, although freedom of speech protects you from government interference, it does not protect you from social consequences.

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As for me, I agree with A&E's decision to fire him. I do not, however, agree with all the focus that is being placed on him. There are far more detrimental things happening to the homosexual/queer community that are being ignored in place of this man's religious beliefs.
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