This will be your chance to discuss the debate as it happens. At the time I'm posting this the debate will start soon. Here is a link to where you can see it. Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham
There have been some issues raised about Nye taking on this debate. Feel free to express your views on that point as well.
Sorry to sound naive here, but I'm not quite sure who's arguing which point. Can someone explain this?
Ken ham is a minister and runs the website answersingenesis and started the currently failing creationist museum where they are holding this debate. He is a creationist and is arguing for a Young Earth Model and that God created life pretty much as is.
Bill Nye is a science educator and has degree in Mechanical engineering. He is arguing fro the point of Evolution by natural selection.
That guy in the clip talking about e.coli that Ken played, the e.coli being able to metabolize citrate isn't just a matter of an existing switch being flipped. That ability is the result of new information. e.coli not being able to metabolize citrate has been a defining quality of e.coli bacteria, that was just a flat out lie.
Penalty Ken Ham on playing Bill Nye clips, quote mining fallacy.
Yes, geological layers are not the same as sedimentary layers. A flood, even one as huge as the Noah's flood global flood would only leave a single geological layer.
Currently we use radiometric dating to measure the measure the age of the Earth. Even if you want to say that this method of dating is horribly flawed, the visual inspection of these geological layers gave estimates of an Earth that was about 96 million years old still off but far older than 6-10 thousands years. Further evidence of an old Earth after this visual inspection and still before radiometric dating was Lord Kelvins measurement of the age of the Earth using thermal gradients. This gave him an estimate of about 100 million years old. However Lord Kelvin didn't take into account the fluidic state of the mental. Lord Kelvin's partner John Perry made this correction to Lord Kelvin's estimates taking into account the nature of the mantel. This gave him an estimate of 2-3 billion years old.
So go ahead and ignore radiometric dating, the evidence will still not be on your side.
