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Posted Apr 4, '14 at 8:03am

Charlie506

Charlie506

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Inspired by Game Theory.

What are your opinions? Are gamers ruining video games? Is this what made the Wii-U? Is this what made the over-rated PS4? Is this what made the horrible Xbo- you get my point.

 

Posted Apr 4, '14 at 9:02am

pickpocket

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First, could you please include some links on the rest of the theory..

As for the rest of this.
Wha-
N-no... How could the general audience of a product ruin it. Gamers have nothing to do with the wiiu and its development. Most gamers don't own a wiiu, it's aimed towards the more casual gamers out there. Gamers don't have much to do with the ps4 or x1 either. I'd like to see the link to which you are referring, because so far as I can tell there is no evidence here suggesting gamers are doing anything bad...

 

Posted Apr 4, '14 at 9:56am

Salvidian

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pick... It's called marketing...

How could the general audience of a product ruin it. Gamers have nothing to do with the wiiu and its development. Most gamers don't own a wiiu, it's aimed towards the more casual gamers out there.


There are really two ways: bad feedback and general audience preference. Bad feedback is pretty obvious. If, like in the Wii U's case, the general audience is made up of casual gamers, then game companies will create casual gaming systems to meet that demand, thus making them money.

Gamers don't have much to do with the ps4 or x1 either.


Really? Because the surge in Smart TV interest is what created the X1. Microsoft saw that it was a good industry and jumped for it. As for the PS4, that's basically an updated version of the PS3 with some cool new features.

In product development, assuming that the developer is perfect, the product is entirely dependent on what the audience desires, or what it's interested in. So yes, gamers may be ruining video games.
 

Posted Apr 4, '14 at 11:12am

FinnDragon

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Yes, games would be 100% better if there were no players for them :P

Okay, enough sarcasm. This might be true to some extent. To me, some serious gamer pros may "ruin" my game by saying that my strategy is bad and I should follow their Ultimate-strategy-of-beating-everything-under-5- seconds.But usually I just ignore it and play the game how I want to even if it is objectivly bad. I often dont even think that I am good in certain games only that I am merely average.

 

Posted Apr 4, '14 at 12:36pm

TheMostManlyMan

TheMostManlyMan

5,463 posts

Are gamers ruining video games?

I can 100% confirm that they don't always help. For instance, there's the recent release of the BF4 DLC, Naval Strike, they (stupidly) announced that it was going to be released a couple of days from the announcement, but it was far from ready. Trying to avoid doing what they had previously done, releasing a broken game/DLC they opted to delay it on some platforms, the fans were upset and angry over it and demanded it now. Sure enough I go online and see that it's been released near the end of March when they said it wouldn't be out until (hopefully) early April (pretty safe to assume they gave into the masses and released it) and guess what? It was broken! The fans, of course, were enraged that DICE once again released broken content, not considering for a moment that if they had just let them release it in their own time that it would have been fine.

The moral of the story is, that if you make a mistake in a game there's absolutely nothing you can do to fix it because the fans will be angry at you for whatever you do to fix it.

Summery:
DICE: We got a new DLC coming out March 25!
fans: YAY new DLC I sure hope they don't release it broken like everything else!
DICE: We're delaying the release on PC and X1 to fix some bugs so as to avoid releasing broken content.
fans: How could you do that?! I want my DLC NOW!
DICE: Alright fine, but we warned you.
fans: HOW COULD YOU RELEASE BROKEN CONTENT AGAIN! YOU GUYS ARE THE WORST COMPANY EVER FOR DOING THAT!

And there's the Battlefield fanbase in a nutshell.

~Manly
 

Posted Apr 4, '14 at 1:17pm

09philj

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Posted Apr 4, '14 at 8:12pm

pickpocket

pickpocket

6,000 posts

@sal
Gamers don't care about smart tvs. That's Microsoft being Microsoft. And I don't think you understand what I'm talking about with the wiiu. It sucks, and that is not the gamer's fault. It was made for casual gamers and is bad so I don't see why gamers are to blame. Of corse I understand marketing and such, but it is not the consumer's fault that the products suck. What I got from the op is that it is gamer's fault that the products suck, which doesn't make much sense to me.

 

Posted Apr 6, '14 at 12:53pm

09philj

09philj

2,271 posts

I don't see why gamers are to blame.


They constantly scream for innovation, but don't really want innovation.
 

Posted Apr 7, '14 at 2:11pm

pickpocket

pickpocket

6,000 posts

Watched the video this time

They constantly scream for innovation, but don't really want innovation.

They do want innovation. The game companies are a bit shy when it comes to this is all and when they do innovate, there is always that chance of failure. It is a general thing, people don't try new things. They don't want to go out of their comfort zone. I see where you are coming from now, the sequels and stuff do sell a lot better which does encourage companies to make more. But this can be applied to a lot of things really. Movies, books, ex. I don't really think this applies directly to gamers, more so to all consumers in general.

Gamers aren't to blame for bad consoles. When it comes to consoles, people most definitely do want innovation, it is just a question of how good/bad the innovation is. I don't blame the wiiu on gamers, I blame it on Nintendo for trying to make lightning strike twice. The balance for consoles is delicate, and companies should learn when, what, and how much to innovate.
 

Posted Apr 7, '14 at 3:00pm

blk2860

blk2860

10,796 posts

Are Armorgames users RUINING Game Theory videos?

Nah, just kidding. I think that some gamers are ruining games, though. I mean, I don't by every Call of Duty game that comes out (the same cannot be said for Halo, however.), but I buy some. Everyone buys some. I do like innovation. Like, Watch_Dogs for example. Another example would be Minecraft. My point is, every video game was innovative at one time. The first Call of Duty was an innovation. Doom was an innovation. Grand Theft Auto was an innovation. I mean, how boring would the video game world be if people played one Call of Duty game, or one shooter game, and never played another shooter again. So, to sum it up, innovation should be taken with moderation, and repetition should be taken with moderation. Come on though, Final Fantasy X-2? They need to stop making Final Fantasy sequels...

tl;dr We should balance out innovation and repetition.

 
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