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thunderrider
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Hi, I am level 3142, and I am going to be the first to get a grade 100 gem.

http://i.imgur.com/LPI5mar.jpg

How did I get specs obscenely high? Well, thanks to this dude over here...

One important thing to note is how to create dual gems. Adding two grade one's them spamming U is losing about 33% special power.

Optimal creation is a G1 of both, combine, make a G2 of each, add one pure to each dual, combine the G3s, duplicate, and repeat with pure G4s, duplicate the 6, etc.

here is the difference at g34:
Regular creation:
http://prntscr.com/3dgs2c

Special Mix:
http://prntscr.com/3dgs6k

Note that the hit count is the same, and the cost to duplicate is the same. This is a difference of 32.9%, and this difference keeps rising at higher levels. It's only a 16% difference at grade 6. It takes a decent amount of time, but it is worth it at ultimate grades (45+).


I now have huge specs. It takes me about 20-30 seconds real life time to get +1 grade. So a minute before +2(needed if want extra specs). I estimate my specs to be about 80% higher than normal, at least blood is.

PS- Level 46 amps got the spec treatment too, they are wicked.
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thunderrider
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Ok I got some amp testing.

At hits 0, pure O obviously is the best. Now.

Control gem(amped gem) Grade 9 ROBB

Hits- 230. Only 230

Unamped mana: 164.88

X6 Grade 6 O gem = 420.52

X6 Grade 6 B gem = 412.23

X6 Grade 6 Dual OB gem = 516.2

Clear winner: The Dual Gem. Ha! I was right!

psorek
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Can you test it with at least 100k hits and higher (30 or so) grades?

thunderrider
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Psorek- It won't change at all. Even at this low hit, blood+orange outstrips pure blood and pure orange. The blood and dual both have same multiplier. So will they 40-60 levels from now. The difference will only get greater- Use Dual-Black. It's hands down the best.

psorek
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This one is with g50 double orange-black amplifiers:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64607958/double%20amplifiers.png

This one is with g50 pure black ones:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/64607958/black%20amplifiers.png

Jarvind
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I'm still not totally clear on how this combining method works. Am I the only one still confused?

ThomasSpeedrunner
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I'm still not totally clear on how this combining method works. Am I the only one still confused?

I don't understand it either.
psorek
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Let's say, that you want to do orange/black gem of grade 6. You can eg. do g5 O and g5 B and combine them, but there is a better method.

You create g1 black and orange and combine them to g2 orange/black. Then duplicate it and create g2 orange and g2 black. Then combine g2 orange/black with g2/pure orange and g2 orange/black with g2 pure black. Then combine freshly created g3 gems together.

You've got now g4 black/orange, which is slightly more powerful than a classic one. Repeating process incerases the difference further.

Is it clear enough or I should do some pics?

ThomasSpeedrunner
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Okay...so do I repeat steps 2-4 until I get to the grade I want?

Jarvind
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Jester

I've got it now. Thanks psorek.

seanhates
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Scribe

is this the same technique we used in Labyrinth? looks something like this:

http://i.imgur.com/qe8v2gP.png

thunderrider
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Yep. Difference is initially same percent or so, but blood multiplies that so its very important.

thunderrider
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Bah.....shockwave crash.

Ledrias
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Sean, no, it's still very different. Just follow psorek very carefully.

Your method (still weaker):
http://prntscr.com/3dud8w

Mine:
http://prntscr.com/3dudfi

It's noticable at the grade 7, even.

Regular u6 combination:
http://prntscr.com/3dudfi

25 skill of mana, the main point is percent difference, which increases with higher grades.

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I'm still pretty low level, but I got.. inconsistent results trying this. The first round is easy enough, following until I have a rank 4 BO. Then I dupe it, make a rank 4 O and a rank for B, and combine (BO+O) + (BO + B) to get a rank 6 BO?

I did that, then again to 8, then compared against a plain 8, and didn't see the difference except like 0.04 leech. The bloodbound was exactly the same. Am I missing something crucial, or is it just that I have pretty pitiful stats still (skill cap at 8 still, so..)

seanhates
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Ledrias - I see that now, and came to post my error. Even at level 14 you can see a significant difference from this method and the traditional one.

However it's a HUGE pain in the ***.

What's the highest level gem we got from this? I'm in the middle of a game right now, but only at 70

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