But in equal amounts? This is where I disagree.
Nearly equal. If you take into account that men are also far less likely to come forward/talk about it, calling the figures pretty much equal is not a stretch.
You're picking out numbers and ignoring others. I provided the second source as a contrast, which I realize now I never actually pointed out. The second source is from feminists and the first source references it.
Everyone quotes the statistics given by the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence: 1 in 4 women will be victims of domestic violence at some point in their lives, 1.3 million women are assaulted by their partner every year, 85% of domestic violence reported is against women. However, in a conflicting survey taken by the CDC in 2010, it was found that 40% of the victims of severe, physical domestic violence are men.
Then you look at the following:
"40% of the victims of severe, physical domestic violence are men."
"men are more likely to be victims of attacks with a deadly weapon. According to one study, 63% of males as opposed to 15% of females had a deadly weapon used against them in a fight with an intimate partner."
" there has been little research in the area of domestic abuse against men because neither the Justice Department nor any other agencies will fund such research. "
"Most shelters available will only take women and children, and some even have an age limit on the boys that they will take in (13 years old)."
Doesn't any of the above strike you as odd? That something isn't right? Clearly domestic violence against men is not so minor a problem, yet it's entirely ignored. Why? Because feminists paint it as a women's issue. They do the same thing with violence in general, even though the vast majority of violence in the world is against men.
There's more here than is being presented. The fact is, no one really cares about whether men are being domestically abused because everyone believes that they either aren't or that they deserved it. What are the actual statistics? Well, that's unclear, but it's definitely not only a women's problem.
Again, I never said and I don't know where it was ever stated in whatever feminism pamphlet all feminists seem to have tucked away in their back pockets, that men cannot be victims of domestic abuse.
It's not so much as they say it as they act like it. When pressed feminists admit that domestic violence against men occurs, but then they downplay its existence or preface it with women retaliating and it being the man's fault.
Are you kind of understanding where I'm coming from?
I do, but you're apparently dismissing the fact that men/boys are victims almost as often. Not only is there little information to go on, I do not see why the numbers would be so disparate. Men are not raised to hurt women. They aren't raised to be violent towards women. They're taught the exact opposite. Every five year old knows that boys shouldn't hit girls, yet, when a girl hits a boy, it's either funny, justified, or not her fault in some way. It does not make sense to me that men and women, who are not that different from each other at all, would have such varying numbers, as opposed to it happening in near equal amounts and one side not reporting it because of, as you mentioned, gender roles. The available data on domestic violence against men shows that it's not only women who are victims, and it doesn't add up.
But given the information that you provided, therefore implying that you believe that information to be true,
I was unclear in my presentation. The first article was referencing the second. I provided both. My stance is that there is very little hard information available because no one has really ventured down that path
because of feminism telling them it isn't an issue. I know there have been cases where feminists directly opposed funding shelters for boys/men because it would mean diverting some funds away from the shelter for women, and I know that despite ~40% of men being victims of domestic abuse, there are
7500 shelters for women in England/Wales and 60 for men. there is very strong evidence against the numbers being close.
The opposite is true. There is every reason to think that men are victims as often as women, and little to no reason to think they aren't. Societal attitudes, laws, gender roles, and other statistics of violence against men all would point to men being just as likely if not more to be victims.
Now, the question that's blurry and what you've hyperfocused on is whether men and women are violent towards each other in the same amount. I am inclined to disagree with you that men are the primary perpetrators of domestic violence by a wide margin, they are more likely to injure without use of a weapon and to cause more serious injuries in general.
I'm sorry for not being clear with what I said before. I haven't argued about this topic much and the words I've been using are ambiguous in parts.
Women initiate the violence as often as men in domestic abuse." While studies have consistently found that women initiate as much violence against their male partners as vice versa, two-thirds of domestic violence injuries are suffered by women."
So to be absolutely clear: Women start it as much as men, but men, being on average stronger, are more likely to cause harm. Yet men, because they are stronger, are more likely to have a weapon used against them. The number of men who are perpetrating domestic violence are not significantly higher in number, even though women are more likely to be killed.
Feminism should be "some great social cause". Because women are not treated equally in todays society.
These two sentences have nothing inherently to do with each other. Women are not treated equally in today's society, but neither are men. The areas of inequality are different and there are more issues. You are never going to get equality by focusing on one group. Feminism was justified back when women couldn't own property, vote, and what not. It's justified in places like Iran and Saudi Arabia. Here in the USA, it's become a superiority movement. It ignores the situation as a whole and misses the target even though it is pointing out legitimate issues.
so I can get paid the same amount as males
*Not actually the whole truth. The 77 cents to a man's dollar figure is misleading. That figure was derived using the total earnings of men against the total earnings of women. It did not account for the fields and position men and women were in. Women do not get paid less by that much as a group, they just work lower paying jobs for a mixture of reasons (not being promoted as often and the fields they choose to enter being the major two). In reality, the wage gap is insignificant as a whole, although there are certainly specific cases where women are being paid less because they are women, and the actual problem is something else.
or walk around in the streets and feel at least somewhat safe.
*Even though violence/crime worldwide is primarily against men and not women, so men should be the ones afraid.
Here's a video that nicely covers these topics. It's 17 minutes long and there are sources in the description if you want to look at those.