ForumsWEPRRussia Vs. United States

108 22428
saxon94
offline
saxon94
30 posts
Nomad

Do you think that a non-nuclear & atomic war could ever happen between the United States and Russia?

  • 108 Replies
zerato5
offline
zerato5
343 posts
Nomad

[quote].HAVE AMERICANS FINDED Atomic weapon in AVGANIStAN.


nerve gas

2.hAVE americans THROW BOMB ON JAPAN.


have japan thrown bombs on us???

3.I see THAT AMERICANS CAN ATTACK EVERYBODY AND DEFEND FROM THEM AND RUSsIA CANT!


life is unfair


5.All of you just dont have information you only listen to your politics and they are lying!


thats true

7.Russia must defend their friends.


yeah like georgia
flashgamer233
offline
flashgamer233
62 posts
Nomad

russia is evil and corrupt they attacked georgia without reason...
georgia is NATO but we're doing nothing!

windshift
offline
windshift
319 posts
Nomad

Georgia deserved to be invaded...

Russia aint evil...While I admit they went overboard...

Russia attacked cause a part of georgia has a large russian population...which was attacked...

Russia invaded.

Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

russia is evil and corrupt they attacked georgia without reason...
georgia is NATO but we're doing nothing!


Haha, gotta love biased news.
CommanderC
offline
CommanderC
120 posts
Nomad

Russia attacked cause a part of georgia has a large russian population


Many parts of the US have large Mexican populations. If Mexico tried to invade us using that argument, you wouldn't be so understanding.

And yes, I know that Mexico would never attempt to invade the US. It is a hypothetical situation.
SuperzMcShort
offline
SuperzMcShort
325 posts
Nomad

Many parts of the US have large Mexican populations. If Mexico tried to invade us using that argument, you wouldn't be so understanding.


The county of Texas in Mexico was open to immigration from the US. Lots of US citizens moved there, then they decided that they wanted to leave Mexico. When the Mexican government said they couldn't they decided to rebel and when Santa Anna came in to crush the rebellions the US got involved to protect it's citizens which ended with the (short lived) independent country of Texas who eventually joined the US as well as the US annexing a large portion of Mexico's land.

It's not like we've never done anything like what happening in Georgia right now, which is why I'm not sure why people are acting so self righteous about it.
windshift
offline
windshift
319 posts
Nomad

Look the place which was invaded by the georgians was on their own territory but it had a very high russian population.

They bombed the place and killed some civilians

The russians retaliated by stopping them from killing any more russians...Didn't help stop killing but it sure as hell told the Georgians that what they were doing wasn't right.

Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

It's not like we've never done anything like what happening in Georgia right now, which is why I'm not sure why people are acting so self righteous about it.


Blind patriotism?
My teacher said the other day:

"The USA and Isreal are the only 2 countries that fought for their freedom, and thats why they have such close ties together."

This is only true if you account for 1/10000 parts of history.

And a bunch of other things he rambles about every day. It seems to me McArturism and the "Red Scarce" is still having an effect on people's opinions. That and the ongoing on news of now...
Kamacaz
offline
Kamacaz
133 posts
Nomad

United States of America would probly. I live in the U.S.A. but, Russia has biological weaponry. I mean we do too but they have Anthrax, Small Pox and just about all of that stuff. They stopped making it, but they said we will stop if we can have samples. And, it being Russia, a sample is and underground warehouse. They still have nukes from the cold war. Yes they are 3rd world but they still have nukes. The Russians wouldn,t be able to make new one though. On the other hand, look at how many countries hat the U.S. I mean more than half the world doesn't really like us. Why? It's because we make more food than we need so we sell it to other countries who don't want our food even though their children population is starving. Our past presidents have started stuff with other countries because they want to police the world and help. Look at Iraq. We go and try to help, 9/11 happens and now we are killing them insetead of helping. Trying to save a country always get you enemies somehow, or it gets you a war. But we are so far one of the most advanced countries and takes most of the world's electrisisty and waste quite a bit of it. If I was another nation's king or president, I'd get pissed at a country like this. So, Russia would have lots of allies but all of them 3rd or 3.5 class countries. We have the 2, 2.5 and almost every 1 class country likes us so the United Sates would have an array of trainer troops to follow us in battle. If their was a WWIII cause this would start it, the allies would win.

acesixteen
offline
acesixteen
27 posts
Nomad

If there was a war, it would never last long enough to become a land war. neither country has the resources or insane enough leaders to support an all out land war on the others turf. neither could win. modern society would be obliterated if any conflict between the two was resolved with war.

Drace
offline
Drace
3,880 posts
Nomad

@Kamakaz,

Many people might hate the US, but they are not in charge of the political decision their country makes. The states of the world, I would say, actually are in favor of it. The US has many influences over the world.

Zootsuit_riot
offline
Zootsuit_riot
1,523 posts
Nomad

"The USA and Isreal are the only 2 countries that fought for their freedom, and thats why they have such close ties together."


Except Israel didn't fight for it's freedom; it was granted to the Jewish community by the UN after WW2 as compensation for having millions of Jewish brothers and sisters being slaughtered.

That's why they have the current dispute with Palistan.
Fyrefox
offline
Fyrefox
2,120 posts
Farmer

For the US..the UN would try to resent the situation (if it happened) without using nukes unless 100% neccesary or so they say...the would only launch one when attacked..but apperently that didn't stop them in WW2..from using the 2 atomic bombs

woody_7007
offline
woody_7007
2,662 posts
Peasant

@ Kamacaz

''They still have nukes from the cold war. Yes they are 3rd world but they still have nukes.''

Russia isnt a 3rd world country. A country liker Zimbabwe or Niger is but not Russia, no matter what your definition with the amount of development that has taken place there since WW2.

''The Russians wouldn,t be able to make new one though.''

They probably would be ableto make new ICBMs if they wanted to and pretty easily at that. The trick would be doing it without anyone finding out.

On the other hand, look at how many countries hat the U.S. I mean more than half the world doesn't really like us.


Very True.

Why? It's because we make more food than we need so we sell it to other countries who don't want our food even though their children population is starving.


Mind bogglingly wrong. You dont make miore food than you need, you consume and waste massive amounts of food. You dont sell very much food to other countries, in fact food exportation is a very small proportion of your total global trade. Belive me if the US did sell food to developing countries at reasonable prices they wouldnt say no.

Our past presidents have started stuff with other countries because they want to police the world and help. Look at Iraq. We go and try to help, 9/11 happens and now we are killing them insetead of helping[/quote

I think its pretty naiive to say that the sole reason for the past andpresebt US foreign policy has been to help people. I advocate the more cynical view in that it protected the best interests of the US and its policies at the time. EG korea+vietnam stopping the spread of Communism. Also we did not go into Iraq to help the people, the sole aim was to find WMDs and destroy them to protect US citizens not Iraqis.

[quote]Trying to save a country always get you enemies somehow, or it gets you a war.


Not nescessarily. Look at the British intervention in Sierra Leone in the 90s. The British were and still are massively popular throughout the region for stabilising it. The trick is having a clear exit strategy.

But we are so far one of the most advanced countries and takes most of the world's electrisisty and waste quite a bit of it


I would say quite a bit is an understatement.

So, Russia would have lots of allies but all of them 3rd or 3.5 class countries. We have the 2, 2.5 and almost every 1 class country likes us so the United Sates would have an array of trainer troops to follow us in battle. If their was a WWIII cause this would start it, the allies would win.


Its not a simple case of rich countries vs poor countries. Russia would have many powerful allies including China. Technology although important would not be the deciding factor in a war on this scake.

the United Sates would have an array of trainer troops to follow us in battle


Now why do you think that peoople hate the US? Could it be the arrogance and patronising tones they use when describing other nations soldiers as if they were inferior cannon fodder?

Americas strength is derived in its size and reserves not its quality. Why do you think that 60% of their officers in the special forces are sent to be trained by the British SAS? Why do you think that statistically the USAF has inferior pilots to the RAF the German Luwtwafffe and the Russian air force to name a few. Americas wealth is the only thing that sets it apart from Russia militarily, enabling it to be better equipped. But as far as training goes you are way behind considering how key you are in the world stage.
Agent_86
offline
Agent_86
2,127 posts
Nomad

I don't think the US will do anything until it's too late...
By the time we take action, Russia will have come back to its former glory, if not more...

Showing 91-105 of 108