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jonnypants23
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I know alot of people avoid thees posts about GOD and Heaven but I just want to know peoples oppions about heaven.Do you belive there is a heaven and if you do what do you think its like?

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TheDude42
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Prove it.

Prove that God doesn't exist.
rafterman
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In 1935 they thought the atomic bomb was unrealistic. It ended up taking the lives of 100,000 people.

Your point?

And it did not exist in 1935, my point is that there are millions of ideas just as plausible as this one, but none are backed by any proof.

Look at this earth! There is no other planet like this . Look at the unique flowers , the amazing stars , and the extraordinary sun sets . This was ALL made buy God , and if you do not believe then you are proud , and ignorant towards the truth .

If you found a hole in the ground, just any random hole in the woods, one that is just big enough to fit your computer mouse in it, there is no way to tell if it was made by me or your grand father, let along a human.
How is it being proud to not blindly believe that an omnipotent old man(who Christians are proud enough to relate to) created everything?
And what do you mean by this earth? Are you saying your magical creature created it but no everything else?
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I always thought people used religion as a substitution for trying to explain things unknown or for things that cant be explained. I prefer to not believe in what i think are lies and know i'll find out about thing sooner or later. Just what I think, do go all religion crazy on me please.

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Prove that God doesn't exist.

That's not how it works.

You try to prove that something does exist, and if in the process you cannot prove it exists, then that experiment goes towards the "inexistent" column. Through millions of experiments, you discover whether or not something exists.

So prove it.
I always thought people used religion as a substitution for trying to explain things unknown or for things that cant be explained. I prefer to not believe in what i think are lies and know i'll find out about thing sooner or later. Just what I think, do go all religion crazy on me please.

Well, one thing historians talk about plenty is exactly that -- religion was created because there were all these things that people couldn't explain, like how they got here, and all the life and wonder of the world, and so they explained it in the only way they could.
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Ill start , I do believe in heaven and the bible says that there are streets of gold and there is no sin whatsoever.


The Bible says a lot of stuff.

Personally, I have no objections to the existence of Heaven, I am just sceptical that it exists. There has been no definite proof (that I know of) so far that the spirit exists, or that any divided from sins leads to some holy place, that we have not found.

If spirits do exist, then I don't think science has many counter-arguments, and so there may be some brilliant supernatural thing that happens after death.

I am neutral on the situation.
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Well, one thing historians talk about plenty is exactly that -- religion was created because there were all these things that people couldn't explain, like how they got here, and all the life and wonder of the world, and so they explained it in the only way they could.

Yes, but Christianity actually had people witnessing God's work, so how could ancient civilizations "explain" that?
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There is definite proof for the dead, and those who have ascended into heaven. Some have returned, and some have not... yet.

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Yes, but Christianity actually had people witnessing God's work, so how could ancient civilizations "explain" that?


You mean like how people witnessed the work of other gods from other religions?

There is definite proof for the dead, and those who have ascended into heaven. Some have returned, and some have not... yet.


What proof would that be, and before you say it no the Bible is not proof.
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Yes, but Christianity actually had people witnessing God's work, so how could ancient civilizations "explain" that?


This right here is exactly why I don't believe in religion. The bible. A said account of what happend for when human beings began. Not only has science disproven the Adam and Eve thing, history (written accounts) did not start until around 3000bc. In the bible it says the jews have been waiting for jesus for 6000 years or so. That's a TON of time for rumors and false misconceptions to spread. Not to mention the bible was put together from many different books written AFTER jesus christs death, and it was pulled from texts that only supported christianity. It's like believing a cookie can fly, it's just utterly proposterous.

Look at this earth! There is no other planet like this


As far as you know.

the amazing stars


Ever think one of those stars could be another solar system with life?

unique flowers


That's just how life evolved on earth.

ALL made buy God


By* How are you so sure? Some super powerful omnipresent being created this little sector just for us? And in his image no less. That sounds extremely conceited of both you and god.
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Hm I sense some trolls on this thread, but w/e. I think that heaven exists, and all the reasons have been listed.

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heaven doesnt exist...when u die u die. Or u become zombie :P

jonnypants23
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heaven doesnt exist...when u die u die. Or u become zombie


First of all there is no such thing as zombies in the real world -_- . And when yuo die there has to be some where to go . What do you think you'll just sit there and stare at pitch blackness forever ?
Kasic
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And when yuo die there has to be some where to go . What do you think you'll just sit there and stare at pitch blackness forever ?


Have you ever slept without having a dream? It's instantaneous. You don't feel time pass, you don't realize your asleep. That's what it will be, just...unconciousness.
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Now before you read this don't read it like im yelling at you or talking in a loud voice just a normal calm voice.

First of all there is no such thing as zombies in the real world -_- . And when yuo die there has to be some where to go . What do you think you'll just sit there and stare at pitch blackness forever ?


Ok first off yes the first line is probably true...
Second off no one will know until they die or we don't see some stoner claim the died and have come back to show us some "vision" from Jesus or God. Yes I do believe there is somewhere you go when you die, but no I don't beilieve that some 14 Billion year old dead guy is going to make some paradise for people who would later turn around and say he dosent exist.
Then again I could be wrong but some spirit probably wouldn't do that just for people who havent died yet. Before you say yes i do believe there is a God, and yes I believe that he has a plan for us all. Do we know that the plan who mean heaven? No.
Now can anyone tell me if there are other things beside Heaven, Hell, or Earth after you die?
German3945
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exactly.
your brain does not have the capacity to function, and there is no scientific evidence of souls or alternate ways of you feeling/seeing/etc things. therefore, you have no thinking power when dead.

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