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jonnypants23
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I know alot of people avoid thees posts about GOD and Heaven but I just want to know peoples oppions about heaven.Do you belive there is a heaven and if you do what do you think its like?

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Will OJ or Charlie Sheen go to heaven?

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1st Corinthians 15:
34Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
35But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?
36Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.

Will OJ or Charlie Sheen go to heaven?


Not without repentance and accepting Christ as Lord and believing he rose. It is thus for everyone.
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No part of us is perfect, we would have to be changed completely until we are not ourselves, and we are not our species.

Okay, this is just my opinion. Perfection is a matter of perspective. If we are not allowed to view our imperfections, then everything we see is perfect. Therefore, we could actually be imperfect, but as long as no one knows, everything is still perfect. You could argue (successfully) that everything about us is imperfect, and therefore we would have nothing to see in heaven. In that case, I would use the "eye of the beholder" argument(which I am just now making up). In this argument, heaven is a state of mind in which you think everything is perfect. So to add to my previos comments, in heaven you lose the ability to see reality but gain the ability to percieve imaginary perfection.
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personally think that there is an other possibility, that after this life there is nothing, there is nonexistence.


How can there be no existence ? There is no MIDDLE place , just heaven and hell .
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There is no MIDDLE place , just heaven and hell .

There is no evidence that there is heaven, hell or anything after we die, there is the possibility that we just cease existing.
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How can there be no existence ? There is no MIDDLE place , just heaven and hell .


Physically we still do exist. It's just that everything has stopped functioning.
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How can there be no existence ? There is no MIDDLE place , just heaven and hell.


May I direct you to Purgatory? Catholicism is a part of Christianity to, ya know.
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May I direct you to Purgatory? Catholicism is a part of Christianity to, ya know.


Im baptist , and I do not believe all of the things that Catholics believe in . Purgatory is not true what so ever . After you die you go to HEAVEN or HELL not some place in the middle to sit and relax then go to heaven .

It's just that everything has stopped functioning.


So he stand around with no cable tv working , no birds singing , and the lights don't work ? I don't get your point ...
MageGrayWolf
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So he stand around with no cable tv working , no birds singing , and the lights don't work ? I don't get your point ...


Neurons are not firing in the brain, the heart is not pumping blood, the lungs are not taking in oxygen.

Or to quote Dr.Manhattan from The Watchmen.
"A live body and a dead body contain the same number of particles. Structurally, there's no discernible difference."

We still exist, we just stop functioning.
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Purgatory was invented so Priests could charge money to pay people out of it and to make people feel better when a loved one went to hell.

SilentQ
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I think you are confusing purgatory with indulgences. Purgatory was around much longer than indulgences.

jonnypants23
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Purgatory was invented so Priests could charge money to pay people out of it and to make people feel better when a loved one went to hell.


I don't know if your serious , but I wouldn't be surprised ...
balerion07
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You wouldn't be surprised if I was serious, or if the statement was true?

Priests STILL charge money for praying people out of Purgatory Q.

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I believe there is a Heavan and u get to do what you like

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I believe there is a Heavan and u get to do what you like


to bad my heaven includes "sinful" activities. So does that mean they will be manifested even though they are a sin?
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