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SAL37
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Hmm... lets take a guess here.People exist like maybe 2million years or 1/4 a million years ago. But how about many people die?There were wars,sickness kill,murder,accidents,people got drown,burned to death,die of hunger,die of cancer but anyway how much deaths on earth?
I say like 50millions people.

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Flipski
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I think I read somewhere that the amount of people currently living is more than all of the people that have ever lived combined...or something like that.

blackrain903
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I am absolutelly shocked at this topic. There is noway we could POSSIBLY know. There are SO MANY ways to die and reasons. this is a crazy topic.

Cholo_Carlos
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I guess that about 90 billion have died throughout the history of mankind

windshift
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Look people you have to take this into effect

Its only in the last 50 years that we have had a major population boom...Before that populations were tiny compared to now

Constant wars..Sicknesses...Certain things like that kept population low I mean my country (Ireland) had about 200,000 people 1000 years ago...

You have to remember that we are living in good times...And Flipski I think I've read that thing too..And well you gotta agree with it

6.7 billion is a massive amount of people on earth...If we had for example 40 billion people dead before us...Well we simply wouldn't be here...Everything needs to grow in abundance...If we had for example 2 billion people living 1000 years ago we would have little trees..Little food and the population of the earth would be 20 billion +

So yeah just saying that if it is any higher than 4 billion people dead before us I'd be surprised

samy
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id say 1.5 billion just seems like a good number if u look at the lack of medical advances with the low populations

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Im a young 12 year old child. I understand your logic Sal, but, your guesses will never be answered. The deaths overwhelm us with war, disease, religious traditions, hunger, especially any captivity cases. The point is, it will never be properly revealed, thousands burring under the Great Wall of China, thousands of bones around it from defending, hundreds of millions of deaths due to disease, smoking, and war, and it will never be accurate on the aproximent amount, but I would guess 20-45 billion with a +/- difference of a couple billion more. Yes yes, I am smart for my age.

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the big question, due to global warming, war, nuclear weaponry, and biological weaponry, in the future, what will be the most massive lose of life. (Besides the enement cause of the sun expanding, comets, gravitational pulls and more.) What will the lose of humans happen before extinction? I am betting due to beliefs of aliens, conspirecies, etc. world wars will come, and if aliens exist, which i highly believe they do, what will the halt of life be? Aliens, war due to many other causes, or threats such as meteors.


One question im wondering, if the sun does implode on itself, and become a mass so heavy a teaspoon would be the weight of Mt.Everest, what will happen to our rings of meteors? Will they come in closer because of the gravity increased on the sun from the planets it gobbles up? Or will they fling out into other places where it will become a hellstorm?

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I would say... OVER 9,000!!!

Just kidding, I would say 75 billion.

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People are guessing way to low. Humans were around thousands of years BEFORE A.D. to you know. I say a guess in the quadrillions is best. So I say 12 quadrillion.

Sodas
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Maybe 1 billion people, maybe more maybe less, I dunno.

windshift
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I can't believe the utter sillyness of some people...we have been around for a couple thousand years...We didn't start off with like 1 billion people...we started off with maybe a handful...Some would've died and that meant even less to reproduce...

If we ever had over 20 billion people on earth our resources would've died ages ago...Think about it people..Use your brains!We are putting strain on the earth right now with 6.7 billion people...If we had too many ancestors they would have eaten all our food and everything...

And the most annoying thing I find about this thread is that people are just making up random numbers...The earth 1000 years ago was flucuating in population...that meant it was staying steady and going up and down only slightly......Diseases were prominent...Which stopped men from becoming fathers and women from becoming mothers...This wouldn't mean more deaths...It would just make the death count in fact a lot lower because they wouldn't have many children...

Heres another thing to prove all you people who think that the world has more people dead than alive...

A popluation would still grow even after all the deaths...And throughout the entire history of man...Population has been growing...If we had more people dead than alive then that means the poplation would have gone way down somewhere...Which actually hasn't happened in large enough numbers to do anything really bad...In fact the 50 million dead in world war 2 would've been an exception but thats the only mass scale amounts of death...I mean a baby is born every seven seconds ( or more ) and the death rate is tiny nowadays compared to death rate

So please..Someone explain to me how the world has more dead than alive...Unless we had some mass extinction along the line ( which hasn't happened just yet)Then population living right now just be about a billion higher than dead.

We have never had a massive human tragedy...If we had 20 billion ancestors then they wouldve had families and multiplied...Just remember we all come from somewhere...And familie tress dont usually get smaller...They usually get much bigger within even a centuary

So before you start going ' We must have 4000 billion dead people dead' then they wouldve had families and unless all those familes died big time it would mean we would have 7000 billion alive people

Poplations get bigger...Not smaller...Countries may get attacked...But the invaders just take over their lands and reproduce for them...Its the cycle of life

TotalReview
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Thanks windshift for saying what I was about to say. Are there a lot of deaths per day now? Yes, but that does not mean there were that many deaths in our past. There have been some nasty diseases but we have had a lot of years to live. As for guessing how many have died, like someone said, it's like asking how many grains of sand are on the beach.

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I can't believe the utter sillyness of some people...we have been around for a couple thousand years...We didn't start off with like 1 billion people...we started off with maybe a handful...Some would've died and that meant even less to reproduce...


Ehh humans came along since a million years ago...
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I refrain from posting on this thread because there are too many misconceptions to correct.

And also I wouldn't know how to hazard a guess myself. But there are a few things I would like to point out:

So I say 12 quadrillion.


Numbers like this are probably several orders of ten too high.

You first need to define 'eople'. This would be dependent on your beliefs.

I can't believe the utter sillyness of some people...we have been around for a couple thousand years...We didn't start off with like 1 billion people...we started off with maybe a handful


Is obviously not consistent with theory of evolution, in which 'humans' would have been an emergent population, hence the initial count being difficult to discern.

This doesn't particularly matter so much, since the thrust of windshift's argument seems reasonable:

The earth 1000 years ago was flucuating in population...that meant it was staying steady and going up and down only slightly......Diseases were prominent...Which stopped men from becoming fathers and women from becoming mothers...This wouldn't mean more deaths...It would just make the death count in fact a lot lower because they wouldn't have many children...


I think in Western countries population explosion only became significant around the time of the industrial revolution. I don't know so much about the other countries.

The most mathematically meaningful measures to use here would be the life expectancies compared to birth rates per region. I wouldn't exactly say death rates were "tiny" compared to birthrates though. If you really wanted to I would suggest looking up the WHO statistics on disease burdens and causes of mortality worldwide...but right now that's way too much information for me to go through.

Ultimately at this stage my intuition is still that the total deaths to date are still lower than the total population. We would have to see a slowdown in population growth below parity to guess otherwise.
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25 billion...
I think.. =P lol meow

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