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zombieslayer
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i dont beleive in global warming because i think that it is so gradual that by the time it is dangerous the next ice age will counter act it

Does any one else have any views or opinions about that?

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th3pr3tz3l
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CO2 may have gone up by 100ppm, but it isn't man-made. As I said, the rest occured naturally.

I can't say for sure, but I BELIEVE there is CO2 trapped in the oceans that is slowly getting released. Supposedly all of it would amount to one third of the current CO2 in the atmosphere. This could explain the other increase, or other natural events could explain it. I can't cite where I found this information as it was just in my head...

I'll try and find it later, I'm too busy searching for information on something else.

Carlie
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I can't say for sure, but I BELIEVE there is CO2 trapped in the oceans that is slowly getting released.

No, the increase is only since the industrial revolution, and due to man generated emissions.

Speaking as a marine biologist who has done research on CO2 in the ocean in relation to global warming, I can pretty confidently say that it is the other way around. The ocean is constantly trying to lower the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere by absorbing more CO2, not releasing more. Check out page 28 where I talk about Carbon Resevoirs and how CO2 effects the ocean. The ocean is continuing to absorb more as we produce more, to its own detriment.
justgotpwned
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i bealieve that there is global warming

Stormchaser
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There won't be another Ice age because the ice is all melting! lol
No really thats a good point zombieslayer but our ozone layer is being destroyed every day. Earth will end up like a green house or like venus.
Did you know that Average temperatures have climbed 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius) around the world since 1880, much of this in recent decades, according to NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies. Also Power plants emit 40% of U.S. carbon dioxide pollution, the primary cause of global warming. And The polar ice cap is now melting at the alarming rate of 9% per decade. Arctic ice thickness has almost halved since the 1960s. But there's more Since 1980, the earth has experienced 19 of its 20 hottest years on record, with 2005 and 1998 tied for the hottest and 2002 and 2003 coming in second and third. Plus Though Americans make up just 4% of the world's population, we produce 25% of the carbon dioxide pollution from fossil-fuel burning -- more than China, India and Japan combined, and by far the largest share of any country. One more, There is perhaps no better example of the potential for devastating global warming impact than the Gulf Coast and Hurricane Katrina. Scientists have unearthed a trend towards larger, more intense storms as oceans around the world warm.

bigBLUEbOnG
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Global warming is a normal thing the earth goes though.Is mankind speeding it up? Yes,thats why we need to watch our carbon emissions.

Lilboi3000
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The sad thing is... is that only the rich white people are the people who are commiting themselves too global warming... I don't blame other poor people, they just want to get on with their lives, and not many people are thinking about the global remifications of what their doing. So technically, rising gas prices could help global warming... because NO ONE wants to drive anywhere.

Carlie
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So technically, rising gas prices could help global warming... because NO ONE wants to drive anywhere.

Yea, they were talking on the news about how people are using less gas, and not driving as much as they used to. Which is one good side effect of high gas prices!
Crazy_Chris_84
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The difficult is getting a vast majority of people to go GREEN. To me that is a crucial step. But unfortunatly business owners in the industrial industry would be the most difficult to convince. At least that is what I think.

Stormchaser
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Wow I never thought the high price of gas could help.

bigBLUEbOnG
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Nomad

I very much agree with Carlie.

d0m1nated14
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High gas prices are spending a lot of money that we make still. We need it to actually go anywhere. Hopefully someday we will run on something else.

th3pr3tz3l
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@ Carlie

Yes I knew that the ocean was absorbing CO2, but I am also under the impression it had begun to release it, as it can't keep absorbing it forever. If it hasn't then I guess I was under the wrong impression.

So you say we have caused much more than 3% of the CO2 in the atmosphere...hmmm....I'm not sure if I should believe you or the scientists...*cough* sarcasm *cough*

And just because the increase is since the industrial revolution doesn't mean we caused all of it.

th3pr3tz3l
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Waiiit, you are a Marine Biologistt. Hmmmmmm.

I have come to a decision, I will listen to the scientists who have last names. =P

But I will stant by my guys who say, yes it went by 100 ppm, no it was not because of us.

@Lilboi3000

Isn't that a little unfair. All the rich white people? I usually hate it when people pull out the racism card when sumbody misswords something and accidentally sounds rude. So... I just want to know if you meant anything by that or its just the way it sounded, and it probably was just the way it sounded soooo...yea =P

MrHam
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What about methane levels? Methane has an effect 4 times greater than that of CO2. If people actually care about global warming, why is the beef industry still thriving?

MrHam
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Woops posted a bit too quickly.

Anyway, the Earth has just come out of an Ice age a few thousand years ago. We had a mini ice-age a few hundred years ago. Isn't it entirely possible that the warming that's happening now is entirely natural? How is it that in the space of a hundred years or so, we've destroyed a climate systems that's been evolving and changing for millions of years?

Frankly I fail to see how we've made this much of an impact. The Ice-caps are melting. So what? They're only been in their present positions a relatively short period of time. Why is this such a big issue? Am I wrong about what I've said?

Mr Ham,
pushing his two cents in a topic he probably should've read further into.

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