ForumsWEPRIs Cloning right?

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jonnypants23
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Do you think cloning is good or bad .

Heres a article about cloned mice and what not.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/scienceandsociety/2008/11/jurassic-park-t.html

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Aaroniscool
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I don't think that cloning is bad, but once it goes into human cloning, that's where I cross the line.

Drace
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Its not a good idea, its an AWESOME idea.

Zophia
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It all depends on how it's handled... It can get out of hand, but it can also be a useful tool...

Dang, too tired to make a good post. I'll get back to this tomorrow.

Cenere
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Just cloning, or gene manipulation as well?

Eshploded
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Heck. It's moral benefits outweigh the negatives, so yeah, I support.

ChopstickBoB
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I just don't think it is that viable, at least not whole animal cloning. Your DNA degrades over time, meaning any clone directly from your DNA would most likely be much more suceptible to any disease, and certainly cancer. Not to mention since they would be babies it is still way cheaper to make new offspring the ol' fashioned way! I do, however, think it is a great idea for growing organs. Better a substandard organ than a slow painful death.

Hectichermit
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lol if you think about how many times your cells duplicate your DNA you would be degrading, in fact everything in the universe is degrading, so does it really matter, and it degrades so little that it doesn't matter lol. Anyways cancer it have many causes but I blame radiation did you know that theres been around 1,995 detonated nuclear bombs...I got the info from Microsoft encarta, anyways yea you may think clonings bad but I would rather have a clone, organs and such then the idea of genetic modification...anyways they found a way around embriotic stem cells, they figured that it takes for specific genes to create a stem cell from any cell....i got that info from Wired Magazine

SoldierOfDeath
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i think its so cool that they are trying to, I say let them try

blackrabbit
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i just want to point some thing out. on dr who, one of the story lines was a hospital from the future, however the hospital had a large room full of cloned people which they infected with every disease, in the universe. this was to see what cures worked on humans. if a clone started to gain intelligence the incinerated it, so the evidence would not get out. i just wanted to point out a moral problem that could occur with cloning "host" bodies.

razaki
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Well, there are certainly a mishmash of moral problems that COULD occur, but as Eshploded said, there are far, far too many moral benefits that outweigh those cons.

With proper oversight, it could change medicine from here on out,

ChopstickBoB
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lol if you think about how many times your cells duplicate your DNA you would be degrading, in fact everything in the universe is degrading, so does it really matter, and it degrades so little that it doesn't matter lol.


Glad to see I make you laugh. My point is that there is a cumulative effect. If you take DNA from a 22 year old, and make a clone from that DNA, you have a newborn with 22 year old DNA. That is bad.

Anyways cancer it have many causes but I blame radiation did you know that theres been around 1,995 detonated nuclear bombs...


And the majority of radioactive isotopes given off by those explosions have far exceeded their halflives, most often leaving them stable, or only capable of giving off alpha radiation. The nuclear bombs have little to do with it, but radiation from natural sources would contribute. Hell, we all drink naturally occuring tritium every time we have a glass of... well... any substance containing water.
nonconformist
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Dude i think it would be epic to have 5 others of yourself. I'd make it a fight to the death XD. everyone would be like WTF, there all the same. And i'd be like, i know... its awesome. XD

SoldierOfDeath
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Dude i think it would be epic to have 5 others of yourself. I'd make it a fight to the death XD. everyone would be like WTF, there all the same. And i'd be like, i know... its awesome. XD
ya lets make it 5 on 5 me vs you hahahaha
crazjayz
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Wow, quite the dicey topic. From a completely medical standpoint, human cloning would be THE breakthrough of medicine. But if we ever reach the point of full human cloning, that would be the demise of man. For that, I am certain. Cloning cells, tissues, even organs for medical measures, I completely agree with. But once you end up forming a human, a life, and you use it for medical practices in a sacrificial sense, that's just wrong. Just think about if they confused you and your sacrificial clone? Whoops, you just died for the person that wasn't you.

Sure, it gets a bit philosophical and overly theoretical, but full human cloning is not going to be a good thing.

On the other hand, Biomorphic robots would be AWESOME. Human structure + robotic additions + computerized mind. As long as you can take out the "soul" of the body and transform it into a machine, man that would be awesome.

Ricador
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Well it's good in a sense that everyone can finally have me, because i know you all want what ive got, and ive got a lot.

Ill stop...

Anyways. No cloning be bad. It's taking away the beings identity.

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