I know I'm not the only one tired of seeing repeat suggestions about things we know will be turned down (at least for the time being), so how about making 'do not suggest' thread listing both what shouldn't be suggested and the reasons why? 'Cause I'm tired of always having to type out the same reasons whenever someone make a duplicate. With such a list, either a link to the list or a copy/paste of the reason in it would be sufficient as a lock message...
Please post your opinions about this, and feel free to post suggestions on what to put on the list.
Do you think a lot of people will even care to read the thread?
I highly doubt it, but getting a list to copy/paste reasons from would save me at least ten minutes every week. >_> And yes, I am that lazy. You would be too, if you had to type the same darn things over and over again...
(Did my post get deleted? What was so bad about it...?)
Why not, instead of just locking/deleting the post, instead lock/delete the post and give the thread creator a warning. That way, he/she will remember to look at the sticky to make sure his/her topics aren't the same as those in it.
Oh, so the thread isn't there for people to know not to post those suggestions, but it's simply something for you to copy and paste to tell them what they did wrong? Why don't you just type that out on word or notepad and save it and use that >.>
Actually, it's just the first thing you said, followed by a slight bit of discipline. People who get away with things, without any sort of discipline or warning will just repeat their mistakes over and over again. And yes, this is a "Do Not Suggest" thread, so it makes perfect since. Another yes, every thread creation requires a little brain power to accomplish, even though some are just too lazy to use it. They HAVE it, they just choose to not do it, because again, they will and always will get away with it.
Answering you, and perfect sense about what should go along with the thread. It seemed like your last reply was shooting me down so that kinda hurt me :3
Why not, instead of just locking/deleting the post, instead lock/delete the post and give the thread creator a warning. That way, he/she will remember to look at the sticky to make sure his/her topics aren't the same as those in it.
Aye. If people do not have enough time on their hands to look at one topic (and only the first post, I guess), there is a massive reason to warn them. Though this would mean the mods would need to have a thread on "spam posters" in their imaginative mod forum, so they are able to keep track on who is spamming, and who is not. Half the time I really want the mods to just delete the thread entirely with answers an such, because it always ends up spammy because of all the "good users" who wants to point out it is a dublicate. Especially is the topic has been shot down before. There is no reason to discuss something already denied and discussed.
Aye. If people do not have enough time on their hands to look at one topic (and only the first post, I guess), there is a massive reason to warn them. Though this would mean the mods would need to have a thread on "spam posters" in their imaginative mod forum, so they are able to keep track on who is spamming, and who is not. Half the time I really want the mods to just delete the thread entirely with answers an such, because it always ends up spammy because of all the "good users" who wants to point out it is a dublicate. Especially is the topic has been shot down before. There is no reason to discuss something already denied and discussed.
Remember. We have no clue what the mods have and don't have. They probably do have such a thing, or matters between users would be pretty frivolous.
Not really theone99 ill refer to page one as carlie stated the same thing you did. Zophia's awnser to that was: yes it is a list of common suggested things however it does not clearly state that people should not make those suggestions again, therefor there is some use for this list.
I agree with shin tho about giving some sort of warning when the starter of a topic creates a duplicate. I also think that in that warning or heads-up as i prefer to call it should be a link to the list of suggestions.
Crabs, Lobsters, and Fellow Crustaceans, lend me your claws. We will gather upon the littoral of suggestions and pinch anyone who repeats suggestions. "Locked with prejudice" shall be the new buzzwords of 2009! This issue has been inflamed by the lack of a map, a lack of a way to search, but when the search returns, we shall bring upon them new words: "Use the search!"
The current problem? tl;dr A possible solution? A short but comprehensive "Welcome" or "Rules" thread that has no or very little posts and points to the Common Suggestions thread, since there is no search function. (Using site:armorgames.com "Support and Suggestions" keyword(s) in Google works rather well, although atrocious spelling tends to hinder searches.) That would conceivably be taken more seriously than a compound thread with a hundred replies, which in itself is an issue. Although having the "New Topic" button right between the forum title and threads on the top left seems to invite trouble too.
There will still be those who ignore them and those users are the problem ones, and there will still be bandwagon crab fads to combat the noobs who don't look and then the "don't hurt me but... posts" will start popping out of the sand less they be pummeled. Maybe tangential relevance but that's my thought on the issue.
however it does not clearly state that people should not make those suggestions again, therefor there is some use for this list.
Answering a quote with a quote:
Before you make a new topic, be sure to check the common site suggestions area to make sure it hasn't already been suggested, or your question answered.
Must we be so aggressive or does this message not suffice because no one thinks anything of it? Must we say you cannot? no means no? no? Know.
Actually, yes, we need to. There are users who KNOW that you need to look before you post, yet they do so anyways (e.g. gold knights with 500 posts, around that general area asking how to do BBCode). It is all fine and dandy if they were newcomers, but that's when they need to teach them that many of us here were months before they started, and common suggestions just get out of hand.
95% of the 1st or 2nd posts will say "This has already been suggested before", or something similar to that. I want some suggestion replies to say "Oh really? I haven't thought of that...". Either have rare suggestions, or let there be none at all, lest you incur the wrath of the mods. It's not that hard to read, y'know? You learned how to before 1st grade.
