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samy
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Whats it means?
Is it right?
Wrong?
Ect.

I think it's pretty important in the aspects of not having an oligarchy (church runs the country) but some of the things it entails and the extremes some people take it to are rediculous.

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Yakooza99K
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What?
Oligarchy has nothing to do with churches.

Why are you even asking if its wrong or right.

This entire thread is stupid

Ricador
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I think that Christianity needs to be taught in all public schools.

It is a Christian nation:

One nation under god


Of course, in a sense the Constitution DOES contradict itself, but let's not go there, eh? >.<
samy
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What?
Oligarchy has nothing to do with churches.


Stupid website..well there something like it i dont know what it's called, and im asking if it's right or wrong because some people (me included) believe it's a bit stupid and don't agree with some of it. By the way don't flame unless it's worth the readers time.
wooters
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dude your a mormon arent you??

samy
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dude your a mormon arent you??


Me?no
Ricador?no
Other kid? hope not
Zootsuit_riot
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Do you mean a theocracy, Samy?

Of course, in a sense the Constitution DOES contradict itself, but let's not go there, eh? >.<


I say we should.

I think it's fine in the Pledge of Allegiance and all that, because you don't have to say it if you don't want to. The Constitution was written by mostly Christians.

However, you should NOT teach Christianity in public schools, because that would be favoring a single religion over all others, which goes against the very first clause in the First Amendment.
samy
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Do you mean a theocracy, Samy?
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Possibly thank you.

However, you should NOT teach Christianity in public schools, because that would be favoring a single religion over all others, which goes against the very first clause in the First Amendment.


I don't really think it should be taught, however the 1st amendment says freedom of religion where does it so no favoring one religion over another, also if your teaching from strait theology it really isn't "religious"
Zootsuit_riot
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Yeah, but you can't teach specifically Christianity in a Theology class, which should cover all forms of religion, the backgrounds behind them, etc.

Basically, if religion is going to be taught in public schools, it needs to be balanced towards all cultures, and needs to be informative, not preaching.

A great example is from my World Literature class that I took sophomore year; we read the creation stories from the Bible, the Rig Vedas, the Mayans, and even the Nordic point of view.

Zootsuit_riot
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however the 1st amendment says freedom of religion where does it so no favoring one religion over another


Here:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;


Like I said, first clause, first amendment.
samy
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Yeah, but you can't teach specifically Christianity in a Theology class, which should cover all forms of religion, the backgrounds behind them, etc.


Unless it's a christian class lol but whatever I agree, however I think the only religions that need to be covered are Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and Hinduism.
Zootsuit_riot
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Unless it's a christian class lol but whatever I agree, however I think the only religions that need to be covered are Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and Hinduism.


Well that's not very fair, because religions have existed before these completely influenced the way the world has turned out.

Besides, it's not just studying the religious doctrine, it's about the philosophy of all religions and how they impact the world.
samy
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Well that's not very fair, because religions have existed before these completely influenced the way the world has turned out.


This is mroe meant to exclude things like scientology and FSM
Zootsuit_riot
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This is mroe meant to exclude things like scientology and FSM


Well, I doubt any serious theology class taken in high school or college would cover those. Maybe for a day or two just to lecture on how people react to them.
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The US was founded on the concept of freedom not religion. Running the state in the name of Christianity would go against what America was founded on. Secularisation is a good thing, plus, when you look at a lot of US foreign policy the US is largely against theocracy, so why would you employ it domestically?

samy
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Well, I doubt any serious theology class taken in high school or college would cover those. Maybe for a day or two just to lecture on how people react to them.


Thats true...hmm since its just you and me theres not much left to talk about :P
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