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Posted February 25, '09 1:41am UTC

This is the continued 4th class thread minus the stupidity of what arose in the previous one...

NO IDEAS THAT ARE RANDOM WILL BE TOLERATED!!!!
This deals with one class idea ONLY!!!! No others.

Anyways, enough ranting... here is the current ability list which is subject to change within certain bounds.

This has been round one of nerfingâ¦ I focused on the completely overpowered Event Horizon. I discovered that coupled with Astral Wonders (maxed), you would be dealing 8400 damage per turn and since it is designed with an intent similar to Shock Therapy as a main bombardment attack, that wouldnât workâ¦

Wall of Light (CD: 1)â¨level 0/10 focusâ¨
A beam of light falls from a star upon you, making you almost invulnerable...â¨
Instill yourself with the two-turn buff "Light Wall" which decreases all damage taken by 80% for 2 turns

Gravity Disruption (CD: 1)â¨level 0/0 focusâ¨
Send a ball of displaced gravity hurtling towards your opponent, so that you may recover focus
Damage the target for 180% of your instinct to recover 60 focus over 2 turns

Gravity Well (CD: 1)â¨level 1/10 focus/ equipable 3 times
Bend space around the target, making it harder to cast spellsâ¨
Reduce the enemy's instinct by 20%/30%/40%/50%/60% and damage the enemy for 20% of your instinct for 5 turns

Magnetic Field (passive)â¨level 1â¨/ equipable 1 time
Slow all incoming attacks, reducing your damage.
Increase physical, fire, lightning, ice, earth, and shadow defense by 5%/10%/15%/20%/25%/30%

Vacuum â¨(CD: 1)level 1/10 focus/ equipable 3 times
â¨Suck the air away from a target, reducing their strengthâ¨
Reduce the target's strength by 20%/30%/40%/50%/60% and damage the enemy for 20% of your instinct for 5 turns

Event Horizon (CD: 3)â¨level 4/30 focus/ equipable 3 time
â¨Conjure a black hole, ready to devour your targetâ¨
Attack the target for 100%/110%/120%/130% of your Vitality and Instinct

Astral Form â¨(CD: 10) level 4/50 focus / equipable 1 timeâ¨
Become one with the stars.
Increase Instinct and Cosmic Piercing by 20%/30%, heal 5%/6%, and regenerate 50/100 focus per turn

Super Nova (CD:0)â¨level 18/all remaining focus/ equipable 8 times
Sacrifice yourself to destroy an opponent
â¨Reduces the target's HP by 10000%/20000%30000% of your vitality and instill the "Martyr"
debuff upon yourself, causing your life to be set to 0 at the end of your turn.

Dimensional Gateâ¨ level 15/20 focus/ equipable 1 time
â¨Create a wormhole around someone to reverse damage and healing â¨
Instill the retrograded buff upon the target

Astral Wonders (passive)â¨level 6/8% of health per turn
â¨Using arcane techniques, dramatically increase your instinct and speed.
Increase your instinct by 100%/150%/200%/250%/300% and speed by 10%/20%/30%/40%/50%

Solar Wind (CD:6) level 2/30 focus/ equipable 2 times
Call solar radiation down to cause interesting effectsâ¦
Creates debuff that reduces the targetâs cosmic defense by 10%/20%/30%, reduces the targetâs focus by 10/20/30 and stuns for 1/2/2 turns

Radiation Poisoning (CD: 4) level 4/15 focus/ equipable 3 times
Have you ever wondered what happens when you put a cat in a microwave? Try it out on your enemyâ¦
Creates a DoT debuff that damages the target 25%/30%/30%/30% of your instinct per turn for 8 turns and on the last turn for 100%/150%/200%/250% (does not stack)

Radioactivity (passive) level 6/30% of health per turn
Take severe automatic damage but increase all damage by 30%/40/50% and instill the lvl 1 radiation poisoning debuff after EVERY attack on ANY target

Prominence (CD: 10)â¨level 8/10% of HP/ equipable 1 time
â¨Call down an arc of plasma from the sun to destroy your enemiesâ¨
attack the target for 500/1000/1500% of your instinct and reduce the targetâs focus by 100

E<>mc^2 (CD: 10) level 19/10 focus/ equipable 1 times
Rip a hole in the fabric of space-time and see what happensâ¦
You have a 20%/40%/60%/80% chance of instilling the âRiftâ debuff which damages the enemy 10%/13%/15%/20% of their health each turn for 1/2/3/4 turns

Final Push (passive) level 20
If you are going down, you may as well take some of them with youâ¦
If you health drops below 15%, you receive the âFinal Pushâ buff, increasing your instinct by 500%, your cosmic piercing by 50%, all defenses by 60% and your speed by 50% for 1 turn

Radiation Build (low survivability, insanely high attack)
Gravity Well 1/5
Vacuum 1/5
Solar Wind 3/3
Magnetic Field 3/3
Radiation Poisioning 1/4
Radioactivity 3/3
Prominence 3/3 (Muahahahaaaa!!!)
Event Horizon 1/6
Astral Form 2/2
Cosmic Wonders 5/5
E<>MC^2 1/4
Final Push 1/1

Wheel
Wall of Light (if you want any chance of survival) 1x
Solar Wind 2x
Prominence 1x
Radiation Poisoning 3x
Astral Form 1x

Explanation:
This build is built around prominenceâs immense power. 1500% is unheard of elsewhere and with the might of radioactivity, the attack deals 2250% instinct. Virtually any single enemy will fall with this single attack. At endgame, you ought to have law binder/WotC which combined with everything else would give you about 450 instinct. This is 10000 damage! Let alone the massive power if you have astral form and the bonus from cosmic form. Just the instinct bonus from cosmic form yields 10462. If you add in final push, you just made this attack insaneâ¦ 52313 DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!! That is enough to one hit virtually every enemy on the game. If you managed to live long enough to hit the colonel while he is reloading, youâd hit around oh I donât know, say 250000!!!! Against single targets, this would be undeniably the most powerful build. No single enemy will stand. Only in groups do they stand a chance because of course, you may kill one, but prominence wonât roll around for quite a while, and you will be long gone by thenâ¦ This is of course the downside. One huge attack and then youâre screwed. Basically, this is a boss killer.

Gravity Build (Good Damage, Good Survivability)
Gravity Well 5/5
Vacuum 5/5
Magnetic Field 3/3
Solar Wind 3/3
Event Horizon 6/6
Astral Form 2/2
Cosmic Wonders 5/5
E<>MC^2 4/4
Final Push 1/1

Wheel
Gravity Disruption 1x
Gravity Well 1x
Vacuum 1x
Solar Wind 2x
Event Horizon 2x
E<>MC^2 1x

Explanation:
This Build is built around being able to consistently hit with event horizon and solar wind. Because solar wind stuns for two turns and you have two, you would be extremely good at crowd control. Coupled with Gravity Well and Vacuum, you will be able to control the enemy quite easily. E<>MC is also a very nice attack in that you can hit a random enemy and in 4 turns they will be pretty well dead. The downside of this build is that you have to use gravity disruption a lot. Overall though this build would be very effective and is more reliable than the other.

Comparison of Builds:
While the first one undeniably deals the most damage of any attack on the game, it is very unlikely that you will live long enough to win. It is a tank killer. If in PvP mode and facing a Daimond Build (explained later) you could punch through his defenses but versus just about everything else, it is just about worthless. The very use of prominence almost kills you. Because you had to get radioactivity first and thus the 30% HP per turn, you receive 50% damage in one turn. The other is far more consistent and is great versus multiple targets.

Rock (CD:1)â¨level 0/10 focus/ equipable 1 time
I will... I willâ¦ ROCK YOU!!!
Damage your opponent for 150% of your strength and instill the "Rocky" debuff which damages the enemy for 50% of your strength per turn for 4 turns

Earthen Strike (CD:1)â¨level 0/nothing/ equipable 1 times
Attack your opponent with the earthâ¨
Damage your opponent with 150% of your strength

Subdue (CD:5)â¨level 1/15 focus/ equipable 3 times
â¨Attack the target to show your superiority
attack the target for 100%/120%/140%/160%/ 180%/200% of your strength and reduce theirs by 10%/20%/30%/40%/50%

Crippleâ¨ level 2/5 focus/ equipable 1 time
â¨Reduce the target's speed
â¨Reduce the target's speed by 10%/30%/50% with an attack that deals 100%/120%/140% of your strength

Speed Break (CD: 5) level 4/20 focus/ equipable 3 times
Force the target to take a defensive stance.
Reduce the targetâs speed by 50%/60%/70%/80% for five turns with a 500% bonus to hit and increase all of their defenses by 30%/25%/20%/15%

Melt (CD:12) level 12/ 3% of health/ equipable 1 time
Use your health to regenerate focus
Instill a buff that reduces your health by 3% and increases your focus by 50/100 each turn for 10 turns

Bury (CD:1)â¨level 1/20 focusâ¨/ equipable 1 time
attack a target and remove its ability to recieve healingâ¨ reduces healing received by 100% for 1/2/3/4/5 turns

Rock Wall (CD:5)â¨level 4/13 focusâ¨/ equipable 1 time
Put a wall of rock between yourself and your opponent for 1/2/3 turns
â¨You reduces damage dealt and taken by target by 100% (can be used on all)

Crush (CD:4)â¨level 6/30 focusâ¨/ equipable 3 times
Crush your opponent with a powerful attackâ¨
Attack your opponent with 200%/250%/300%/330% of your strength and reduce focus by 20/30/40/50

Petrify (CD:5)â¨level 8/20 focusâ¨/ equipable 1 time
Turn your target to stone, stunning them but greatly increasing their health.â¨
stuns enemy for 1/2/3/4 turns and increases their health for said duration by 100%/75%/50%/25%

Golem Form (CD:15)â¨level 8/50 focusâ¨/ equipable 1 time
Turn yourself into a living rock, increasing your defense and attack.
â¨increases all defenses by 20% and Strength by 25% for 5 turns

Powderize (CD:15)â¨level 15/75 focus/ equipable 1 time
â¨Cast a powerful bolt that returns their body to the dust from whence it came.
â¨attack the target for 300%/360%/420%/480%/550% of your strength

Slow Movement (passive)â¨level 5â¨
Increase your earth piercing at the cost of speedâ¨
Increase earth piercing by 50%/100%/150%/200%, decrease speed by 5%/10%/15%/20%

Regeneration (passive)â¨level 1
â¨Increase your health and focus regeneration
â¨Increase your health by 10/15/20 focus and 3%/4%/5% of your health per turn

Gaia (CD:99)â¨level 20/100 focus/ equipable 1 time
â¨Attempt to summon the earth to engulf your opponent, low chance to hit
â¨Deal 400%/500%/600%/700% of your strength with a 50% chance to hit

Rock Skin (passive)â¨level 10/5 focus per turnâ¨
Harden your skin to be like a rock, dramatically increasing your health.â¨
Increase your vitality by 100%/200%/300%/400% and reduce focus by 5/10/15/20 each turn.

Diamond Man Build (Insanely High defense/health)

Subdue 1/6
Rock Wall 3/3
Bury 1/5
Cripple 1/3
Regeneration 5/5
Slow Movement 4/4
Rock Skin 4/4
Crush 1/4
Golem Form 1/1
Powderize 1/5
Gaia 4/4

Wheel
Rock Wall 1x
Crush 3x
Golem Form 1x
Gaia 1x
Rock 1x
Earthen Strike 1x

Explanation:
This build is a freaking tank. Other classes have tanks, but if those are tanks, this is a bunker. This build has VERY low attack, but at the same time has very high survivability. It is not recommended for those with short attention spans, but for those who can stand to watch Roald do all the work, this is a good build. Against enemies that have high burst damage, you can simply activate rock wall and watch them try to hit youâ¦

Gaia Build (slow, but has super powerful attacks)

Bury 1/5
Cripple 1/3
Regeneration 5/5
Slow Movement 2/4
Rock Skin 2/4
Speed Break 4/4
Crush 4/4
Golem Form 1/1
Powderize 5/5
Gaia 4/4
Melt 2/2
Petrify 4/4

Wheel
Speed Break 1x
Crush 2x
Melt 1x
Golem Form 1x
Powderize 1x
Gaia 1x
Petrify 1x

Explanation:
This build is bloody slow! But that is not to say that it is weak. If you hit, you will slam them. It is recommended that you debuff them with speedbreak first so that you even have a chance to hit themâ¦ In general, this build is supported by Gaia, and melt. Because many of the attacks require large amounts of focus (especially gaia) it is critical to use melt whenever you can. Other than that, this is a pretty effective buildâ¦

Comparison of Builds:
While at first glance, it appears that someone can get all the power of both builds, you must look carefully. I knew that some would try and as such, made it so that the attacks and passives scale very slowly. This means that you practically have to be level 30 before you can use all the power of either build. This also means that while you can mix and match, it wonât matter. You will just end up with something decent, but only decent. In general, both builds have high HP and good attacks, but one is awesome at one thing and the other for the other. I do not recommend the earth tree for someone until they are at least in zone 3. Before that, you just arenât high enough of a level to use all the abilities necessaryâ¦

Thank you for your time, and I hope that this can be more productive...

[img]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x111/VoltCruelerz/4thClassPhotoshoppedv2.jpg[/img]\r\n\r\nThis is the continued 4th class thread minus the stupidity of what arose in the previous one...\r\n\r\nNO IDEAS THAT ARE RANDOM WILL BE TOLERATED!!!!  \r\nThis deals with one class idea ONLY!!!!  No others.\r\n\r\nAnyways, enough ranting... here is the current ability list which is subject to change within certain bounds.\r\n\r\nThis has been round one of nerfingâ�¦ I focused on the completely overpowered Event Horizon.  I discovered that coupled with Astral Wonders (maxed), you would be dealing 8400 damage per turn and since it is designed with an intent similar to Shock Therapy as a main bombardment attack, that wouldnâ��t workâ�¦\r\n\r\n\r\nWall of Light (CD: 1)â�¨level 0/10 focusâ�¨\r\nA beam of light falls from a star upon you, making you almost invulnerable...â�¨\r\nInstill yourself with the two-turn buff "Light Wall" which decreases all damage taken by 80% for 2 turns\r\n\r\nGravity Disruption (CD: 1)â�¨level 0/0 focusâ�¨\r\nSend a ball of displaced gravity hurtling towards your opponent, so that you may recover focus\r\nDamage the target for 180% of your instinct to recover 60 focus over 2 turns\r\n\r\nGravity Well (CD: 1)â�¨level 1/10 focus/ equipable 3 times\r\nBend space around the target, making it harder to cast spellsâ�¨\r\nReduce the enemy's instinct by 20%/30%/40%/50%/60% and damage the enemy for 20% of your instinct for 5 turns\r\n\r\nMagnetic Field (passive)â�¨level 1â�¨/ equipable 1 time\r\nSlow all incoming attacks, reducing your damage.\r\nIncrease physical, fire, lightning, ice, earth, and shadow defense by 5%/10%/15%/20%/25%/30%\r\n\r\nVacuum â�¨(CD: 1)level 1/10 focus/ equipable 3 times\r\nâ�¨Suck the air away from a target, reducing their strengthâ�¨\r\nReduce the target's strength by 20%/30%/40%/50%/60% and damage the enemy for 20% of your instinct for 5 turns\r\n\r\nEvent Horizon (CD: 3)â�¨level 4/30 focus/ equipable 3 time\r\nâ�¨Conjure a black hole, ready to devour your targetâ�¨\r\nAttack the target for 100%/110%/120%/130% of your Vitality and Instinct\r\n\r\nAstral Form â�¨(CD: 10) level 4/50 focus / equipable 1 timeâ�¨\r\nBecome one with the stars.\r\nIncrease Instinct and Cosmic Piercing by 20%/30%, heal 5%/6%, and regenerate 50/100 focus per turn\r\n\r\nSuper Nova (CD:0)â�¨level 18/all remaining focus/ equipable 8 times\r\nSacrifice yourself to destroy an opponent\r\nâ�¨Reduces the target's HP by 10000%/20000%30000% of your vitality and instill the "Martyr" \r\ndebuff upon yourself, causing your life to be set to 0 at the end of your turn.\r\n\r\nDimensional Gateâ�¨ level 15/20 focus/ equipable 1 time\r\nâ�¨Create a wormhole around someone to reverse damage and healing â�¨\r\nInstill the retrograded buff upon the target\r\n\r\nAstral Wonders (passive)â�¨level 6/8% of health per turn\r\nâ�¨Using arcane techniques, dramatically increase your instinct and speed.\r\nIncrease your instinct by 100%/150%/200%/250%/300% and speed by 10%/20%/30%/40%/50%\r\n\r\nSolar Wind (CD:6) level 2/30 focus/ equipable 2 times\r\nCall solar radiation down to cause interesting effectsâ�¦ \r\nCreates debuff that reduces the targetâ��s cosmic defense by 10%/20%/30%, reduces the targetâ��s focus by 10/20/30 and stuns for 1/2/2 turns\r\n\r\nRadiation Poisoning (CD: 4) level 4/15 focus/ equipable 3 times\r\nHave you ever wondered what happens when you put a cat in a microwave?  Try it out on your enemyâ�¦  \r\nCreates a DoT debuff that damages the target 25%/30%/30%/30% of your instinct per turn for 8 turns and on the last turn for 100%/150%/200%/250% (does not stack)\r\n\r\nRadioactivity (passive) level 6/30% of health per turn \r\nTake severe automatic damage but increase all damage by 30%/40/50% and instill the lvl 1 radiation poisoning debuff after EVERY attack on ANY target\r\n\r\nProminence (CD: 10)â�¨level 8/10% of HP/ equipable 1 time\r\nâ�¨Call down an arc of plasma from the sun to destroy your enemiesâ�¨\r\nattack the target for 500/1000/1500% of your instinct and reduce the targetâ��s focus by 100\r\n\r\nE<>mc^2 (CD: 10) level 19/10 focus/ equipable 1 times\r\nRip a hole in the fabric of space-time and see what happensâ�¦  \r\nYou have a 20%/40%/60%/80% chance of instilling the â��Riftâ�� debuff which damages the enemy 10%/13%/15%/20% of their health each turn for 1/2/3/4 turns\r\n\r\n Final Push (passive) level 20 \r\nIf you are going down, you may as well take some of them with youâ�¦ \r\nIf you health drops below 15%, you receive the â��Final Pushâ�� buff, increasing your instinct by 500%, your cosmic piercing by 50%, all defenses by 60% and your speed by 50% for 1 turn\r\n\r\nRadiation Build (low survivability, insanely high attack)\r\nGravity Well 1/5\r\nVacuum 1/5\r\nSolar Wind 3/3\r\nMagnetic Field 3/3\r\nRadiation Poisioning 1/4\r\nRadioactivity 3/3	\r\nProminence 3/3 (Muahahahaaaa!!!)\r\nEvent Horizon 1/6\r\nAstral Form 2/2\r\nCosmic Wonders 5/5\r\nE<>MC^2 1/4\r\nFinal Push 1/1\r\n\r\nWheel\r\nWall of Light (if you want any chance of survival) 1x\r\nSolar Wind 2x\r\nProminence 1x\r\nRadiation Poisoning 3x\r\nAstral Form 1x\r\n\r\nExplanation:\r\nThis build is built around prominenceâ��s immense power.  1500% is unheard of elsewhere and with the might of radioactivity, the attack deals 2250% instinct.  Virtually any single enemy will fall with this single attack.  At endgame, you ought to have law binder/WotC which combined with everything else would give you about 450 instinct.  This is 10000 damage!  Let alone the massive power if you have astral form and the bonus from cosmic form.  Just the instinct bonus from cosmic form yields 10462.  If you add in final push, you just made this attack insaneâ�¦  52313 DAMAGE!!!!!!!!!!  That is enough to one hit virtually every enemy on the game.  If you managed to live long enough to hit the colonel while he is reloading, youâ��d hit around oh I donâ��t know, say 250000!!!!  Against single targets, this would be undeniably the most powerful build.  No single enemy will stand.  Only in groups do they stand a chance because of course, you may kill one, but prominence wonâ��t roll around for quite a while, and you will be long gone by thenâ�¦  This is of course the downside.  One huge attack and then youâ��re screwed.  Basically, this is a boss killer.\r\n\r\nGravity Build (Good Damage, Good Survivability)\r\nGravity Well 5/5\r\nVacuum 5/5\r\nMagnetic Field 3/3\r\nSolar Wind 3/3\r\nEvent Horizon 6/6\r\nAstral Form 2/2\r\nCosmic Wonders 5/5\r\nE<>MC^2 4/4\r\nFinal Push 1/1\r\n\r\nWheel\r\nGravity Disruption 1x\r\nGravity Well 1x\r\nVacuum 1x\r\nSolar Wind 2x\r\nEvent Horizon 2x\r\nE<>MC^2 1x\r\n\r\nExplanation:\r\nThis Build is built around being able to consistently hit with event horizon and solar wind.  Because solar wind stuns for two turns and you have two, you would be extremely good at crowd control.  Coupled with Gravity Well and Vacuum, you will be able to control the enemy quite easily.  E<>MC is also a very nice attack in that you can hit a random enemy and in 4 turns they will be pretty well dead.  The downside of this build is that you have to use gravity disruption a lot.  Overall though this build would be very effective and is more reliable than the other.\r\n\r\nComparison of Builds:\r\nWhile the first one undeniably deals the most damage of any attack on the game, it is very unlikely that you will live long enough to win.  It is a tank killer.  If in PvP mode and facing a Daimond Build (explained later) you could punch through his defenses but versus just about everything else, it is just about worthless.  The very use of prominence almost kills you.  Because you had to get radioactivity first and thus the 30% HP per turn, you receive 50% damage in one turn.  The other is far more consistent and is great versus multiple targets.\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nRock (CD:1)â�¨level 0/10 focus/ equipable 1 time\r\nI will... I willâ�¦ ROCK YOU!!!\r\nDamage your opponent for 150% of your strength and instill the "Rocky" debuff which damages the enemy for 50% of your strength per turn for 4 turns\r\n\r\nEarthen Strike (CD:1)â�¨level 0/nothing/ equipable 1 times\r\nAttack your opponent with the earthâ�¨\r\nDamage your opponent with 150% of your strength\r\n\r\nSubdue (CD:5)â�¨level 1/15 focus/ equipable 3 times\r\nâ�¨Attack the target to show your superiority \r\nattack the target for 100%/120%/140%/160%/ 180%/200% of your strength and reduce theirs by 10%/20%/30%/40%/50%\r\n\r\nCrippleâ�¨ level 2/5 focus/ equipable 1 time\r\nâ�¨Reduce the target's speed\r\nâ�¨Reduce the target's speed by 10%/30%/50% with an attack that deals 100%/120%/140% of your strength\r\n\r\nSpeed Break (CD: 5) level 4/20 focus/ equipable 3 times\r\nForce the target to take a defensive stance.  \r\nReduce the targetâ��s speed by 50%/60%/70%/80% for five turns with a 500% bonus to hit and increase all of their defenses by 30%/25%/20%/15%\r\n\r\n Melt (CD:12) level 12/ 3% of health/ equipable 1 time\r\nUse your health to regenerate focus\r\nInstill a buff that reduces your health by 3% and increases your focus by 50/100 each turn for 10 turns\r\n\r\nBury (CD:1)â�¨level 1/20 focusâ�¨/ equipable 1 time\r\nattack a target and remove its ability to recieve healingâ�¨ reduces healing received by 100% for 1/2/3/4/5 turns\r\n\r\nRock Wall (CD:5)â�¨level 4/13 focusâ�¨/ equipable 1 time\r\nPut a wall of rock between yourself and your opponent for 1/2/3 turns\r\nâ�¨You reduces damage dealt and taken by target by 100% (can be used on all)\r\n\r\nCrush (CD:4)â�¨level 6/30 focusâ�¨/ equipable 3 times\r\nCrush your opponent with a powerful attackâ�¨\r\nAttack your opponent with 200%/250%/300%/330% of your strength and reduce focus by 20/30/40/50\r\n\r\nPetrify (CD:5)â�¨level 8/20 focusâ�¨/ equipable 1 time\r\nTurn your target to stone, stunning them but greatly increasing their health.â�¨\r\nstuns enemy for 1/2/3/4 turns and increases their health for said duration by 100%/75%/50%/25%\r\n\r\nGolem Form (CD:15)â�¨level 8/50 focusâ�¨/ equipable 1 time\r\nTurn yourself into a living rock, increasing your defense and attack.\r\nâ�¨increases all defenses by 20% and Strength by 25% for 5 turns\r\n\r\nPowderize (CD:15)â�¨level 15/75 focus/ equipable 1 time\r\nâ�¨Cast a powerful bolt that returns their body to the dust from whence it came.\r\nâ�¨attack the target for 300%/360%/420%/480%/550% of your strength\r\n\r\nSlow Movement (passive)â�¨level 5â�¨\r\nIncrease your earth piercing at the cost of speedâ�¨\r\nIncrease earth piercing by 50%/100%/150%/200%, decrease speed by 5%/10%/15%/20%\r\n\r\nRegeneration (passive)â�¨level 1\r\nâ�¨Increase your health and focus regeneration\r\nâ�¨Increase your health by 10/15/20 focus and 3%/4%/5% of your health per turn\r\n\r\nGaia (CD:99)â�¨level 20/100 focus/ equipable 1 time\r\nâ�¨Attempt to summon the earth to engulf your opponent, low chance to hit\r\nâ�¨Deal 400%/500%/600%/700% of your strength with a 50% chance to hit\r\n\r\nRock Skin (passive)â�¨level 10/5 focus per turnâ�¨\r\nHarden your skin to be like a rock, dramatically increasing your health.â�¨\r\nIncrease your vitality by 100%/200%/300%/400% and reduce focus by 5/10/15/20 each turn.\r\n\r\n\r\nDiamond Man Build (Insanely High defense/health)\r\n\r\nSubdue 1/6\r\nRock Wall 3/3\r\nBury 1/5\r\nCripple 1/3\r\nRegeneration 5/5\r\nSlow Movement 4/4\r\nRock Skin 4/4\r\nCrush 1/4\r\nGolem Form 1/1\r\nPowderize 1/5\r\nGaia 4/4\r\n\r\nWheel\r\nRock Wall 1x\r\nCrush 3x\r\nGolem Form 1x\r\nGaia 1x\r\nRock 1x\r\nEarthen Strike 1x\r\n\r\nExplanation:\r\nThis build is a freaking tank.  Other classes have tanks, but if those are tanks, this is a bunker.  This build has VERY low attack, but at the same time has very high survivability.  It is not recommended for those with short attention spans, but for those who can stand to watch Roald do all the work, this is a good build.  Against enemies that have high burst damage, you can simply activate rock wall and watch them try to hit youâ�¦\r\n\r\nGaia Build (slow, but has super powerful attacks)\r\n\r\nBury 1/5\r\nCripple 1/3\r\nRegeneration 5/5\r\nSlow Movement 2/4\r\nRock Skin 2/4\r\nSpeed Break 4/4\r\nCrush 4/4\r\nGolem Form 1/1\r\nPowderize 5/5\r\nGaia 4/4\r\nMelt 2/2\r\nPetrify 4/4\r\n\r\nWheel\r\nSpeed Break 1x\r\nCrush 2x\r\nMelt 1x\r\nGolem Form 1x\r\nPowderize 1x\r\nGaia 1x\r\nPetrify 1x\r\n\r\nExplanation:\r\nThis build is bloody slow!  But that is not to say that it is weak.  If you hit, you will slam them.  It is recommended that you debuff them with speedbreak first so that you even have a chance to hit themâ�¦  In general, this build is supported by Gaia, and melt.  Because many of the attacks require large amounts of focus (especially gaia) it is critical to use melt whenever you can.  Other than that, this is a pretty effective buildâ�¦\r\n\r\nComparison of Builds:\r\nWhile at first glance, it appears that someone can get all the power of both builds, you must look carefully.  I knew that some would try and as such, made it so that the attacks and passives scale very slowly.  This means that you practically have to be level 30 before you can use all the power of either build.  This also means that while you can mix and match, it wonâ��t matter.  You will just end up with something decent, but only decent.  In general, both builds have high HP and good attacks, but one is awesome at one thing and the other for the other.  I do not recommend the earth tree for someone until they are at least in zone 3.  Before that, you just arenâ��t high enough of a level to use all the abilities necessaryâ�¦\r\n\r\nThank you for your time, and I hope that this can be more productive...

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VoltCruelerz

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Nomad

Posted May 12, '09 8:40pm UTC

Event Horizon (CD: 3)level 4/30 focus/ equipable 3 times
Conjure a black hole, ready to devour your target
Attack the target for 100%/120%/140%/160%/180%/200% of your Vitality and Instinct

Ok, so now lets crank up a few things like CD and focus...

Event Horizon (CD: 6)level 4/50 focus/ equipable 3 times
Conjure a black hole, ready to devour your target
Attack the target for 100%/120%/140%/160%/180%/200% of your Vitality and Instinct

and now lets try nerfing the damage...

Event Horizon (CD: 6)level 4/50 focus/ equipable 3 times
Conjure a black hole, ready to devour your target
Attack the target for 100%/120%/140%/160%/180%/200% of your Instinct and 10%/30%/50%/70%/90%/100% of your Vitality

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Posted May 12, '09 8:46pm UTC

Better. Nerfing the vitality makes it less useful for a rock build. It might still be OP.

I'll look later. I'm bored.

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Nomad

Posted May 13, '09 2:23am UTC

After looking back at things, it would work better as:

Event Horizon (CD: 4)level 4/40 focus/ equipable 3 times
Conjure a black hole, ready to devour your target
Attack the target for 100%/120%/140%/160%/180%/200% of your Instinct and 10%/30%/50%/70%/90%/100% of your Vitality

there we go... I'll run some math tests tomorrow and see how this checks out...

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Nomad

Posted May 14, '09 10:36am UTC

Current: 598 base damage EH
Shock Therapy with same stats: 795.3

actually, I'll go down the line with a level 19 cold hydro's stats...
The superior one will be in italics

Ins: 241
Vit: 116

Bombardment
EH: 598
Shock Therapy: 795.3

Focus Regen
Gravity Disruption: 602.5 (but has greater regen)
High Voltage: 674.8

Focus Destruction/Stun
Solar Wind: Reduces cosmic def by 15%, stuns 2, destroys 30 focus, increase healing by 35%
Traumatize: stuns 2, destroy ~60~ focus, reduce damage taken by 50%
Flash Freeze: 497, stuns 2

Passive Damage Buff
Arcane Techniques: +200%, increase speed by 6%
Charged Blood: +200%
Crystal Ice: +200%

Damage Redux
Magnetic Field: 20%
Cold Neurology: 20%, reduces focus by 40

Debuffs
Vacuum: 482 [DoT], reduce str by 17%
Glacier: 497 [Instant], reduce str by 13%

Form
Astral: Ins+30%, heal 6%
Wraith: Speed+400%, damage+20%
Avenger: ins+25%, damage-20%

It would appear that everything is pretty balanced, it wins often but only slightly and and tends to lose big, thus leveling out and seeming on paper at least, balanced...

Current: 598 base damage EH\r\nShock Therapy with same stats: 795.3\r\n\r\nactually, I'll go down the line with a level 19 cold hydro's stats...\r\nThe superior one will be in italics\r\n\r\nIns: 241\r\nVit: 116\r\n\r\n[b]Bombardment[/b]\r\nEH: 598\r\n[i]Shock Therapy: 795.3[/i]\r\n\r\n[b]Focus Regen[/b]\r\nGravity Disruption: 602.5 (but has greater regen)\r\nHigh Voltage: 674.8\r\n\r\n[b]Focus Destruction/Stun[/b]\r\nSolar Wind: Reduces cosmic def by 15%, stuns 2, destroys 30 focus, increase healing by 35%\r\nTraumatize: stuns 2, destroy ~60~ focus, reduce damage taken by 50%\r\nFlash Freeze: 497, stuns 2\r\n\r\nPassive Damage Buff\r\n[i]Arcane Techniques: +200%, increase speed by 6%[/i]\r\nCharged Blood: +200%\r\nCrystal Ice: +200%\r\n\r\nDamage Redux\r\n[i]Magnetic Field: 20%[/i]\r\nCold Neurology: 20%, reduces focus by 40\r\n\r\nDebuffs\r\n[i]Vacuum: 482 [DoT], reduce str by 17%[/i]\r\nGlacier: 497 [Instant], reduce str by 13%\r\n\r\nForm\r\n[i]Astral: Ins+30%, heal 6%\r\nWraith: Speed+400%, damage+20%[/i]\r\nAvenger: ins+25%, damage-20%\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\nIt would appear that everything is pretty balanced, it wins often but only slightly and and tends to lose big, thus leveling out and seeming on paper at least, balanced...

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Peasant

Posted May 14, '09 10:40am UTC

Hey...I can do this on Photoshop + Paint too, oh and I can think some skills and enter them...yeah!! Why Krin didn't posted this?

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Posted May 14, '09 5:53pm UTC

Wow, I'm shocked it turned out like that. Cool tool you're using . Guess all that's left to do, really, after this, is look for unbalanced skill combos like the 4hko. I think I'll do that right now because it's fun.

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Posted May 14, '09 9:36pm UTC

I think I found one.

2 points into rock skin: Double vitality, half instinct.
Max astral wonders: Triple instinct (total 150% original), +50% speed
Slow Movement (prereq): -5% speed (+45% total)

That alone is pretty strong. Then the attacks:

Astral Form: infinite focus, +200% instinct, piercing
Event Horizon: 100% vitality (now 200%) and 200% Instinct (now 900% with form and passive)
Prominence (optional): 1500% instinct (total, w/ passive and form... 6750%)
Radioactivity (optional prereq): +30% damage (50% maxed...), -30% max health each turn
Super Nova: 3000% vitality (6000% with rock skin, like that matters)

That takes 6 points for Rock skin and you pick up 1 Regeneration and 1 Slow Movement. Big whoop. They only help, really. 14 more for Event Horizon and Astral Wonders and Astral Form. It would take 2 prereq points for prominence and then 3 to max it, and 1 prereq for supernova and 3 to max it. Maxing is unnecessary anyway, with moves and passives that strong, but w/e. That's 29 points.

Assuming you don't get hit or healed, you would have four turns to try and survive from radioactivity. If it helps you feel better, you've got twice as much vitality as normal. Small change with radioactivity, but anyway: Astral form->event horizon-&gtrominence->super nova. Radioactivity adds +30% damage, so in total that does:

0.
1170% instinct, 260% vitality.
8875% (!) instinct.
7800% vitality.
0 again. Because you've died. And won.

Yeah.

Basically, Rock skin +2 with astral wonders +4 is amazing. Astral form is way too strong.

Something tells me you've nerfed astral form and astral wonders already, though, and I have bad numbers, so this might be pointless. Actually this whole thing might be pointless. There's a good chance (like 90%), even with that build ^, that you might die before you finish, so it *may* be balanced. All these moves on cosmic have some serious setbacks.

I think I found one.\r\n\r\n2 points into rock skin: Double vitality, half instinct.\r\nMax astral wonders: Triple instinct (total 150% original), +50% speed\r\nSlow Movement (prereq): -5% speed (+45% total)\r\n\r\nThat alone is pretty strong. Then the attacks:\r\n\r\nAstral Form: infinite focus, +200% instinct, piercing\r\nEvent Horizon: 100% vitality (now 200%) and 200% Instinct (now 900% with form and passive)\r\nProminence (optional): 1500% instinct (total, w/ passive and form... 6750%)\r\nRadioactivity (optional prereq): +30% damage (50% maxed...), -30% max health each turn\r\nSuper Nova: 3000% vitality (6000% with rock skin, like that matters)\r\n\r\nThat takes 6 points for Rock skin and you pick up 1 Regeneration and 1 Slow Movement. Big whoop. They only help, really. 14 more for Event Horizon and Astral Wonders and Astral Form. It would take 2 prereq points for prominence and then 3 to max it, and 1 prereq for supernova and 3 to max it. Maxing is unnecessary anyway, with moves and passives that strong, but w/e. That's 29 points. \r\n\r\nAssuming you don't get hit or healed, you would have four turns to try and survive from radioactivity. If it helps you feel better, you've got twice as much vitality as normal. Small change with radioactivity, but anyway: Astral form->event horizon->prominence->super nova. Radioactivity adds +30% damage, so in total that does: \r\n\r\n0.\r\n1170% instinct, 260% vitality.\r\n8875% (!) instinct.\r\n7800% vitality. \r\n0 again. Because you've died. And won.\r\n\r\nYeah.\r\n\r\nBasically, Rock skin +2 with astral wonders +4 is amazing. Astral form is way too strong.\r\n\r\nSomething tells me you've nerfed astral form and astral wonders already, though, and I have bad numbers, so this might be pointless. Actually this whole thing might be pointless. There's a good chance (like 90%), even with that build ^, that you might die before you finish, so it *may* be balanced. All these moves on cosmic have some serious setbacks.

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Nomad

Posted May 14, '09 10:13pm UTC

@Spore: huh? Are you bad at typing or foreign?

@Jerkoid: Good...

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Nomad

Posted May 18, '09 6:50am UTC

and we know light wall = suppression, but I suggested it as a way to bring that skill back from Sonny 1.

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Nomad

Posted May 18, '09 11:02am UTC

@jerkoid;
yep bad numbers and btw, prom is supposed to deal that much damage... It's the cosmo's nuke...

Astral Form Ã¢ï¿½Â¨(CD: 10) level 4/50 focus / equipable 1 timeÃ¢ï¿½Â¨
Become one with the stars.
Increase Cosmic Piercing by 20%/30%, heal 5%/6%, and regenerate 50/100 focus per turn

Astral Wonders (passive)Ã¢ï¿½Â¨level 6/10% of health per turn
Ã¢ï¿½Â¨Using arcane techniques, dramatically increase your instinct and speed.
Increase your instinct by 100%/125%/150%/175%/200% and speed by 1%/2%/3%/4%/5%

AW drains you health by 10% so you only have 3 turns to live...

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Nomad

Posted May 18, '09 8:08pm UTC

Wow, never seen those symbols before... Well, anyways, I am fairly close to being done with the radiation sim.

For some reason or other Astral form is making his defense stronger... Also, I haven't made a focus bar yet. Another warning, I don't have veradux/roald in it. It is just lvl 30 Sonny vs. a single Peacekeeper. Arcane Tech/Radio's health drain hasn't been added yet. Oh, and I haven't calculated speed/accuracy yet (if that is, I ever will).

From what I have found, Prom is of course the most powerful attack on the game. For some reason it is dealing 80k damage now that I stuck in arcane tech, but even before that, it was enough to kill them quickly. Radio Poison is good once you add in arcane tech because it is cranked up to 90% rather than 30% Solar Wind seems about right but one can't be too sure without partners in it and I REALLY don't want to make roald do statuses. WoL is unfinished so I don't know how that will do.

In general though, it seems that having such little health, combined with how self-destructive the character is, counteracts the massive damage of Prominence/Super Nova.

I was thinking about it and noticed though...

You have three turns to live, so you've got that much time to KO as many as you can.

Turn 1: WoL (keep yourself from dying due to opponents)
Turn 2: Prominence (KO 1st target)
Turn 3: Super Nova (KO 2nd target if still alive...)

If you got roald to hit you with greater purpose and veradux to heal you, you might be able to KO two of the three enemies before you auto-die. If the last enemy was a third PK, Roald could hammer away and Vera could heal, thus making you win.

The problem arises in the fact that when facing the mayor or any high-level boss for that matter, you would obliterate them!!! I'll show you the Mayor:

Sonny Turn 1: Prominence on Mayor (kills him instantly)
Roald Turn 1: Greater Purpose on Sonny
Veradux Turn 1: Heal Sonny
Guardian Cannon Turn 1: Vapour Cannon on Sonny, but deals little damage due to GP
Sonny Turn 2: Super Nova on Guardian Cannon (kills it instantly)
You Win.

Tell me how that isn't too easy... This class can't fight worth crap versus three enemies, but versus one/two, is unstopable... Even if you went back and fought the Baron... You could kill him the old-fashioned way! Who cares about taking 40 turns to have him kill himself if you can do it in 2. This build would defeat the point of Z7 as it is a bunch of bosses, but Idk... I don't know what to nerf... Unless you can add area attacks that would hurt the target severly as well as Roald and Vera... Personally, I think it would be best if Super Nova was weaker but could affect all characters in the battle, but thats just me...

Wow, never seen those symbols before...  Well, anyways, I am fairly close to being done with the radiation sim.  \r\n\r\nFor some reason or other Astral form is making his defense stronger...  Also, I haven't made a focus bar yet.  Another warning, I don't have veradux/roald in it.  It is just lvl 30 Sonny vs. a single Peacekeeper.  Arcane Tech/Radio's health drain hasn't been added yet.  Oh, and I haven't calculated speed/accuracy yet (if that is, I ever will).\r\n\r\nFrom what I have found, Prom is of course the most powerful attack on the game.  For some reason it is dealing 80k damage now that I stuck in arcane tech, but even before that, it was enough to kill them quickly.  Radio Poison is good once you add in arcane tech because it is cranked up to 90% rather than 30%  Solar Wind seems about right but one can't be too sure without partners in it and I [b]REALLY[/b] don't want to make roald do statuses.  WoL is unfinished so I don't know how that will do.\r\n\r\nIn general though, it seems that having such little health, combined with how self-destructive the character is, counteracts the massive damage of Prominence/Super Nova.\r\n\r\nI was thinking about it and noticed though...\r\n\r\nYou have three turns to live, so you've got that much time to KO as many as you can.\r\n\r\nTurn 1: WoL (keep yourself from dying due to opponents)\r\nTurn 2: Prominence (KO 1st target)\r\nTurn 3: Super Nova (KO 2nd target if still alive...)\r\n\r\nIf you got roald to hit you with greater purpose and veradux to heal you, you might be able to KO two of the three enemies before you auto-die.  If the last enemy was a third PK, Roald could hammer away and Vera could heal, thus making you win.  \r\n\r\nThe problem arises in the fact that when facing the mayor or any high-level boss for that matter, you would obliterate them!!!  I'll show you the Mayor:\r\n\r\nSonny Turn 1: Prominence on Mayor (kills him instantly)\r\nRoald Turn 1: Greater Purpose on Sonny\r\nVeradux Turn 1: Heal Sonny\r\nGuardian Cannon Turn 1: Vapour Cannon on Sonny, but deals little damage due to GP\r\nSonny Turn 2: Super Nova on Guardian Cannon (kills it instantly)\r\nYou Win.\r\n\r\nTell me how that isn't too easy...  This class can't fight worth crap versus three enemies, but versus one/two, is unstopable...   Even if you went back and fought the Baron...  You could kill him the old-fashioned way!  Who cares about taking 40 turns to have him kill himself if you can do it in 2.  This build would defeat the point of Z7 as it is a bunch of bosses, but Idk...  I don't know what to nerf...  Unless you can add area attacks that would hurt the target severly as well as Roald and Vera...  Personally, I think it would be best if Super Nova was weaker but could affect all characters in the battle, but thats just me...

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Bronze

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Shepherd

Posted May 18, '09 11:42pm UTC

Yes, Sonny really could use abilities with splash damage, or area of effect, w/e you wanna call it.

Oh and great job Volt.

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Nomad

Posted May 19, '09 3:31am UTC

Thanks but honestly, I don't think it would be too hard to add in... They have to fill in a spot so you ought to be able to reference the object in (x,y) location so for a graphic representation...

The first one is for one that harms/heals everyone on the field...

Allies Enemies

- -
-- ---
- -

Next is a splash attack for enemies only

x -
x --
x -

And one aimed at an enemy on the top/bottom

x --
x -
x x

And finally an area heal (you should use common sense to figure out the remaining possibilities)

- x
-- x
- x

If such a system were incorporated, it would give rise to a new strategy and a new meaning to crowd control. An idea I had for S3 involved advanced classes which you could advance to once you were at a high enough level. Say you went to the hyper-cold hydro, the stun might be something like "Cryostasis" which would stun all enemies for x turns...

Thanks but honestly, I don't think it would be too hard to add in...  They have to fill in a spot so you ought to be able to reference the object in (x,y) location so for a graphic representation...\r\n\r\nThe first one is for one that harms/heals everyone on the field...\r\n\r\nAllies                                 Enemies\r\n\r\n-                                        -\r\n--                                 ---\r\n-                                        -\r\n\r\nNext is a splash attack for enemies only\r\n\r\nx                                       -\r\nx                                     --\r\nx                                       -\r\n\r\nAnd one aimed at an enemy on the top/bottom\r\n\r\nx                                     --\r\nx                                       -\r\nx                                       x\r\n\r\nAnd finally an area heal (you should use common sense to figure out the remaining possibilities)\r\n\r\n-                                       x\r\n--                                     x\r\n-                                       x\r\n\r\n\r\nIf such a system were incorporated, it would give rise to a new strategy and a new meaning to crowd control.  An idea I had for S3 involved advanced classes which you could advance to once you were at a high enough level.  Say you went to the hyper-cold hydro, the stun might be something like "Cryostasis" which would stun all enemies for x turns...

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Posted May 20, '09 7:07pm UTC

What's the highest DPS build in the game right now, speed bio or lightning psycho? You need to check the DPS of those two and compare it to this one. Speed bio gets one shot before he has to wait a long-ass time to get another good one, where he is likely to die, and I don't think it's unreasonable to have a character do a ton of damage right out of the gate and die right afterwards. This build would be alright doing a little more damage than speed bio, since you are certain to die.

Anyway, I can tell you what you need to nerf. Your buff and passive skills are super-powerful. They are the ones that allow for these mad boss-killing hits. That's maybe not all that bad, but the giant nukes need to be weaker first. That will weaken the buffs, too, and keep the weaker nukes strong enough to use. As it is, you could bypass AF and AW and radiation and still do massive damage, with good survivability (especially when coupled with rock skills, like I showed). That should not be. You should have to rely on the buffs to deal that super-high anti-boss damage, at great cost. If you decide not to use them, you will survive better, and can still do good damage, but not nearly as much.

That's how I see it. Two separate builds: one suicidal with AW + AF + radioactivity with prominence; one less suicidal, more versatile, with DOT's or a high-crit AF + solar wind + event horizon x2 combo (which needs to be run through the sim, if you've messed with piercing). Both have the option of incorporating certain rock skills for survivability, but the second build can do it more freely and effectively. The first build can take out tanks or super-units, but the second has better control over the battle.

Just thought of a third. Rock skin, max AW + AF + EH/E<>mc2, and final push. Final push would give the boost that rock skin takes away, and rock skin would make final push possible. (BTW, final push is pretty useless to most of this class)

And I thought of another, but it's just like your gravity build. So :/

What's the highest DPS build in the game right now, speed bio or lightning psycho? You need to check the DPS of those two and compare it to this one. Speed bio gets one shot before he has to wait a long-ass time to get another good one, where he is likely to die, and I don't think it's unreasonable to have a character do a ton of damage right out of the gate and die right afterwards. This build would be alright doing a little more damage than speed bio, since you are certain to die.\r\n\r\nAnyway, I can tell you what you need to nerf. Your buff and passive skills are super-powerful. They are the ones that allow for these mad boss-killing hits. That's maybe not all that bad, but the giant nukes need to be weaker first. That will weaken the buffs, too, and keep the weaker nukes strong enough to use. As it is, you could bypass AF and AW and radiation and still do massive damage, with good survivability (especially when coupled with rock skills, like I showed). That should not be. You should have to rely on the buffs to deal that super-high anti-boss damage, at great cost. If you decide not to use them, you will survive better, and can still do good damage, but not nearly as much.\r\n\r\nThat's how I see it. Two separate builds: one suicidal with AW + AF + radioactivity with prominence; one less suicidal, more versatile, with DOT's or a high-crit AF + solar wind + event horizon x2 combo (which needs to be run through the sim, if you've messed with piercing). Both have the option of incorporating certain rock skills for survivability, but the second build can do it more freely and effectively. The first build can take out tanks or super-units, but the second has better control over the battle.\r\n\r\nJust thought of a third. Rock skin, max AW + AF + EH/E<>mc2, and final push. Final push would give the boost that rock skin takes away, and rock skin would make final push possible. (BTW, final push is pretty useless to most of this class)\r\n\r\nAnd I thought of another, but it's just like your gravity build. So :/

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Posted May 27, '09 11:29pm UTC

Can I get a number on the current amount of skills in the build tree? I counted 32 on the one on page 2, and I'm sure that each class on S2 has 28. So I hope there are four useless powers to throw out if thats the case.

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