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Yakooza99K
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Why are all socialist countries authoritarians? I mean really, they're usualy dictated, like mao, stalin, Kim Jong Ill, Ho Chi Minh, and castro,

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Pixie214
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that's in the theoretical world, we live in the real world


Correct me if I'm wrong but, what is the NHS? Only 8% of people in Britain use private hospitals.
Graham
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you meany :L

still there's the transition into it and the problems it may cause to america in this recession

thisisnotanalt
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There should be universal healthcare, but only if you're at a certain income level. If not, you should rely on corporate hospitals and health insurance. Capitalism and socialism both have flaws, and ideals from the other fixes the other one.
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Umm, like I said, Canada and the UK also suffer from overcrowded hospitals... And, because the government does have to pay for everyone and the hospitals are so pressed for space, oftentimes the treatment is nowhere near the quality it is here.


You shouldn't say something like that unless you actually have evidence irrefutable by someone who actually lives there.
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you meany :L

still there's the transition into it and the problems it may cause to america in this recession


We aren't talking about America, we're talking about socialism as a whole.
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Ok, how can I provide a link about news, that isn't media? And, you cannot deny that Hawaii had a universal health care program (for kids only mind you), that covered it's relatively small population... And people who could afford health care dropped it in favor of getting free health care. Thus swamping the Hawaii government, and it ran out of funds and had to cancel after 7 months.


A word comes to mind here....re....regu....regulati....regulation? Prohibiting someone from using those government hospitals if they're over a certain income bracket. (excluding for emergency situations, with that hospital being the closest.)
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thisisnotanalt
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,439607,00.html


wtf? Why would you use fox news as a citation in a thread about socialism? Can you say bi-as? Can you say lot-sa bi-as?
Zootsuit_riot
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Graham and Zorae, you do realize that Obama doesn't want Universal Health Care, right? He said that if he were building a system from scratch that it would be possible. Since the United States can't afford to completely trash the current health care system, however, he simply wants to make it affordable.

thisisnotanalt
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Graham and Zorae, you do realize that Obama doesn't want Universal Health Care, right? He said that if he were building a system from scratch that it would be possible. Since the United States can't afford to completely trash the current health care system, however, he simply wants to make it affordable.


It would just be impractical to give the USA universal healthcare, because of the implementation costs, and time. If we were building a new system from scratch, however, then implementing some more socialist economics would be a good thing.
FireflyIV
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It would just be impractical to give the USA universal healthcare, because of the implementation costs, and time. If we were building a new system from scratch, however, then implementing some more socialist economics would be a good thing.


On the contrary, the economic crisis has led to a climate in which radical change would probably receive popular support.

No one thought that the NHS would be set up in Britain for many of the same reasons, yet here we are 50 years later with a functioning National Health Service.
Deth666
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No one thought that the NHS would be set up in Britain for many of the same reasons, yet here we are 50 years later with a functioning National Health Service.


i'm all for national health care but america is like a retarded bull in a china shop one little thing can set him off and he's gonna completely destroy everything
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