Why does it seem that I can't go on the internet without seeing some comment about "OMG, ur a ton of loooser 12 year olds who have nothing bttr 2 do than play a retarded game like this *** **** **** **** *". What does everyone have against twelve-year-olds? I remember being twelve and hating how no one took me seriously and I was always left out because I wasn't a "teeenaaageeer". Why does such a thing matter? I was much more mature than my 15-year-old brother, yet he was allowed to do more than me.
Main discussion points: 1. Why does age matter and not maturity? 2. Why is 12 the typical cut-off age 3. What's with all of those grammar-killers** acting like being 12 is a bad thing.
* asterisks added for emphasis, I didn't actually swear. ** a grammar-killer is someone who tlks liek dis n also uses numbers and bad apostrophes.
Perhaps a new discussion point is at hand: Why do people care about other types of prejudice, but no people being "agist."
To start this topic: I understand the over 21 part, but people seem to think that all 12 year olds are idiots who speak in 1337 and get pissed at nothing. (That one works vice-versa, too). Some people think that all 15-18(or so) year olds only want to do one thing: sex. Some people think that most children (5-10) can't be taken seriously.
I'm just saying... its not that people can't have fun, but in the same way that you would find a 12 year old goofing off on a game to be annoying, others might find goofing off on the forums to be the same way, if you see where im goin with that... Its not that we don't all do the same thing sometimes.
Really, the expression probably comes from us all knowing how we used to act that that age, and seeing how we grew out of it... looking back and seeing how silly it really sounded when we said it.
the 15-18 bracket... yea... thatd be hormones for you. That is probably the most honest one of the bunch (yea, i'm in there too) Not saying that, like me, some people just don't care as much about it. I'm focusing more on my job, school, and planning ahead for life.
The topic of children not being serious is that they often just don't know enough about how things really operate in the world, and often have misconceptions about things, so we often don't take them seriously thinking they are just confused. Not exactly fair, as not everyone is the same (this works with all stereotypes... or else they would be facts, and not stereotypes :] )
Really, the expression probably comes from us all knowing how we used to act that that age, and seeing how we grew out of it... looking back and seeing how silly it really sounded when we said it.
That has happened to me. And I guess that you're right. It can be verrrry funny to wonder what I was thinking when I said "ie" so spontaneously. But I guess that what I'm saying is that people treat younger people like they aren't equal before they even get to know them, and I don't know why. I like to meet new people of all ages and shapes and sizes, but I guess I can see why others wouldn't.
Its because 12 year olds are the most annoying people in the world.
And this is the type of thing that started the thread. People saying randomness like that.
Speaking of starting the thread, I only wanted the 3rd question answered, I added the other stuff so that it wouldn't be a "ointless short thread." I l(-ed)ol at this now that I am thinking.
The topic of children not being serious is that they often just don't know enough about how things really operate in the world, and often have misconceptions about things, so we often don't take them seriously thinking they are just confused. Not exactly fair, as not everyone is the same (this works with all stereotypes... or else they would be facts, and not stereotypes :] )
Yes, I know. But the thing is that some children can really have great ideas that are brushed off as being "childish".
And please, HAHA and Cedar, post stuff that is on-topic rather than useless stuff.
Not saying kids can't have great ideas, because obviously they can. they can be the most imaginative of us all, which can also make them the least realistic.... not saying something on the border of both couldn't be a genius idea, and be disregarded.
I don't think it is fair to judge by age because there a many people whose minds are beyond their years. Maturity is not based on age but life experience and sometimes someone who is very young for example 16 could have had more life experience than someone who is 60. You can't also hold it against people to discriminate a 12 year old or a kid because a majority of people who claim they are 12 are usually annoying and ramble on about topics that are not quite decent. My brother is 12 but he's very eloquent and has a reading level of a person thrice his age. (explains why he doesn't really get along with his age group) Personally I think 12 year old people are great everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I'm not at all disagreeing with you or are any of these statements aimed at you. I'm merely wondering now why no one notices the "agism" that is so big. I guess you only notice and/or care when you or a friend is hit by it. Which rules out most adults.
I just realised that my previous posts were "agist" as well. I was saying that a lot of adults don't take kids seriously, but I meant it as a generalization. Wow, it can be so easy to fall into your own trap.
again, its a stereotype for a reason...
That reminds me of my best inside joke. Heh heh heh. But yeah, I guess it really is. I mean, you can't just say that all of the stereotypes are completely false, but they aren't true.
I would have to say thanks now for your great insight, you really made me see more on this topic than I at first saw.
Very true about stereotypes.I don't know why people feel the need to categorize other people.The stereotype thing happens to everyone. One kid in my school called me immature just because I joke around with my brother. I'm 17 and have been taking care of him since I was 9. I literally raised him because my mom got cancer. She died 6 years later. I pay the bills, do groceries, cook, clean, help my brother study and sometimes do his assignments, make sure he has everything that he needs before he goes to school and I plan vacations and activities. I felt deeply insulted when this particular person called me immature. I later realized they considered me that way because I wasn't cool like them which is hilarious. I have noticed that close relationships with younger siblings have become "uncool" but I don't care. If being close with my 12 year old brother is uncool then I'm a freakin nerd! I wouldn't trade that little man for anything. XD
I don't hate twelve year olds. In fact I believe that assuming twelve years old children are immature idiots is in fact stereotypical. I know there are many children like how people described them before. I know there are many annoying children but you cannot assume that all twelve year olds are like that.
