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TexanProvo
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"A controversial public lecture on euthanasia has been cancelled minutes after it began when a group of over 20 protestors disrupted it.

The guest speaker Prof Len Doyal, an open proponent of both voluntary and non-voluntary euthanasia, had to be escorted from the lecture theatre at Cork University Hospital by security staff." from MSN.ie

I found this article on Ireland's MSN page and found it interesting. Normally, I could be in favor of some form of VOLUNTARY euthanasia in some cases, but the thing that caught my eye was "non-voluntary" euthanasia. Sounds a little Nazi to me. Thoughts?

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Snakebite
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That sounds VERY communist. Where did you find that?

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Here's the story:

A controversial public lecture on euthanasia has been cancelled minutes after it began when a group of over 20 protestors disrupted it.

The guest speaker Prof Len Doyal, an open proponent of both voluntary and non-voluntary euthanasia, had to be escorted from the lecture theatre at Cork University Hospital by security staff.

The lecture entitled 'Why Euthanaia should be legalised', formed part of the annual spring series organized by CUH's Ethics Forum and started at 5pm.

As the 350 attendees were being welcomed, a group of over 20 people stood up and began shouting.

Witnesses say some began saying the rosary and one man accused Prof Doyal of being a murderer.

A decision was taken soon afterwards to cancel the lecture on public safety grounds but it took some time to get the message through to the audience because of the continuing strong vocal opposition by protestors.

Afterwards a spokeswoman for the HSE expressed disappointment that the annual lecture series which is held to stimulate debate was forced to be cancelled.

She stressed that the lecture series is not funded by the HSE but privately by the hospital's Ethics Forum and that neither the HSE or CUH or the Ethics Forum are in favour of euthanasia.

Earlier, a group of about 20 people protested peacefully at the entrance to the hospital.

The lecture has been a source of controversy for a number of weeks

source: RTE

This article may be biased, but it seems that these people were protesting against Euthanasia as a whole. I also find it fallacious they should call this man a "murderer." While I support the idea of Euthanasia, I've never considered an imposed sort of Euthanasia.
The problem with a suggestion like that is it could take many forms. Are we talking a Logan's Run scenario where everyone is just Euthanized at a particular age? Maybe we can find this guy's suggestion online somewhere?
My problem with this protest and the lecture being cancelled is they didn't even have a chance to hear this guy out. 20 protesters ruined it for 330 other people. Why on earth weren't the protesters removed instead? I might disagree with the man, but I don't know until I've heard what he has to say.
Deth666
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yeah imagine if you signed away your power of attorney or whatever and someone decided for you that you were better off dead that's pretty scary

thelistman
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That sounds VERY communist. Where did you find that?


Do you even know what Communism is?

It's a system of government and economics where the workers take control and provide for the people. After a while, the state withers away to create a perfect utopia where there is no Capitalism.

How is Euthanasia protesting even remotely related to Communism?

FireflyIV
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yeah imagine if you signed away your power of attorney or whatever and someone decided for you that you were better off dead that's pretty scary


I'm not wholly against it, if you are a lost cause-a vegetable, and the medical resources could help save someone else. Although, it's easy to say when it doesn't affect you or someone you know.

It does seem a little too Nazi for my liking the whole 'non voluntary' aspect of it, but as Moegreche said, the lecture was never carried out so we don't know the whole story.

Although in extremes it can lead to:

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I'm not against euthanasia. What's the point of keeping a person alive when he's in pain/ a long coma/ brain dead. It's the person and their family's choice. No attorney, government, protestors should stick their 8insert whatever derogatory you want here* noses in and preach about human rights. The ultimate choice lies with the affected party, not some self-righteous ignorant fool. If they want to listen to the lecture then go on, it's freedom of speech. Control freaks.

FireflyIV
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No attorney, government, protestors should stick their 8insert whatever derogatory you want here* noses in and preach about human rights. The ultimate choice lies with the affected party, not some self-righteous ignorant fool. If they want to listen to the lecture then go on, it's freedom of speech. Control freaks.


With the freedom of speech comes the freedom to protest.

If people's rights were taken away because of opinion, our ideals of freedom would be meaningless.
nichodemus
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If people's rights were taken away because of opinion, our ideals of freedom would be meaningless.

What rights specifically.
Snakebite
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What rights specifically.


Our rights to become old, to have our family decide our fate if we've been in a coma for many years, the very freedom our country has fought for.

[quote]Do you even know what Communism is? [quote]

Yes I do. Looking at what information we have at the moment, I can't argue for or against this subject because, heck, we don't know what they were going to discuss. They will probably initiate another lecture, when they do, I will definitely research it.
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Euthanasia makes big fuss every time it is mentioned in public. Anyone remembers Italian euthanasia incident 2 or 3 years ago?

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