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Kyouzou
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I want to know AG's views on us where did we come from....

you have three options

A. The religious idea (we were spawned from a divine entity)

B. Evolutionism ( Humans evolved from apes or other similar creature)

C. You own theory


PLease explain your reasoning, i hope this will encourage a healthy debate amongst the AG community.


To the mods: My apologies if this topic has already been done.

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caucasiafro
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small tangent where/what is Zealand. New England obviously england. New York named after the best city ever (no-biased) but I can't find Zealand. sorry


I think it originated because Dutch cartographers called the islands Nova Zeelandia after the Dutch province of Zeeland (its in the Netherlands so thats Dutch right). There is also the Danish island of Zealand but I dont think they are connected.
napolian654321
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A. Yeah I'm an annoying goody goody church boy.

Kyouzou
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Pixie i think I have a solution, remember Pangaea and the land bridge and all its possible the the seeds were carried to what later became new guinea after the continents split apart, as for Australia maybe there was a land bridge there to there's to much about this world that we'll probably know. Anyway speaking of early neanderthals i saw a documentary on PBS in how scholars had actually found skulls and bodies resembling those weird little dolls with the Hershey kiss shaped hair does, anyway it appeared that the race had actually died from having too big of a brain, as their skulls constricted their brain and killed them, kinda sucks doesn't it.

DDX
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Actually DDX people actually believe that we came from apes or at least their ancestors so I put the version that most people would accept as evolutionism. The only one that i'm arguing with is Somers, as we have proof that the earth is at least a million years old yet your timeline goes over about 8000 years.


uh I never say B was wrong, I was just saying the way B was presented was wrong. I wonder how many thesis driven term papers you have written in biology to tell me I'm wrong.
Somers
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My timeline was very accurate...VERY accurate...How dare you!!

DarkLadyRaven
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Calm down Somers, no need to explode...

Although I would have added the birth of Raven in 1992 AD. How dare you forget my awsomeness?!

Pixie214
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@Kyouzou maybe though I dislike the idea of land bridges because they can be relied upon too much and changed about for new discoveries then you get to the point where there are more land bridges than land lol.

Also the oldest sweet potato remains that ghave been found are at most from 1000 CE which suggests that they are more recent than Pangea in the region. Plus they weren't seed cultivated they were grown from a vine. Which to me suggests it wasn't accidental drifting etc. but deliberate.

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before any one says creation or evolution I think we all should stop and think that may be it could just be both after all we know dinosaurs and man never lived at the same time so that means that god didn't create the world in 7 days by our time but he may have in his time and same with man rasing him out of the dust of the earth may just have been a way of saying man evolved

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Two things 1. GAGAMEN,

Its evolution,Im 101% sure
according the the Hisenburg (spelling?) property of uncertinty it is impossible to be 100%, let alone 101%, sure of anything. Just saying. 2. B. Deffinatly. There is simply to much evidence from fossils alone to say otherwise, let alone everything else that we have that points to evolution.
sourwhatup2
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I'm pretty sure it's evolution.

Not 101% Like Gagamen said.. its not possible lol, you don't know. But I'm still pretty sure

DarkLadyRaven
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Pixie what do sweet potates have to do with Origin of Humanity?!

pickleshack
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What is really amazing about the origin of humanity is the genetic diversity that was presumably present in the first group of people despite their close proximity to one another.

Kyouzou
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Sorry DDX I wasn't saying you were wrong I happen to be a freshman and just took Bio this year where we didn't discuss Human evolution because it was to 'controversial' I see what you mean Pixie i guess i kinda agree with you, thanks for telling me that, I didn't even know that sweet potatoes grew in that area. But then again ancient people have done things that we can't pull off today with all of our technology with the amount of resources they used.

Pixie214
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Pixie what do sweet potates have to do with Origin of Humanity?!


They originate in South America but they have also been found in Papa New Gineia (sp). My queastion was how they got there.

What is really amazing about the origin of humanity is the genetic diversity that was presumably present in the first group of people despite their close proximity to one another.


Though natural disasters like the Toba volcano in Sumatra reduced human populations to less than a few thousand for the next 20,000 years. Which is why we have a smaller genetic diversity.
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We now know why people everywhere, notwithstanding differences of culture and context experience the same basic emotions, the same kinds of hopes and fears, even the same distortions of perceptions and cognitions. Thus, it is not totally unfounded to believe we as humans share a common ancestor, and thus originated from a specific locale.


But universalist generalisations across a spectrum are not solely restricted to the human species. There are identifiable commonalities in behaviours across the entire mammalian kingdom etc. etc. and it is debatable as to exactly what is common to humans alone.

I guess on a genetic level, I would like people to first consider (no matter how ridiculous this seems), just how solid our knowledge that we are the same species with a common genetic basis is.
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