I know there's definitely another post like this somewhere. I swear I searched for it, but once I got to page 25 of discussions and couldn't find it, I decided to make a new one.
The title says it all. What do you think about the dropping of nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Loly, that was completely off point. I stated a historical fact and you stated another one that had almost nothing at all to do with it and then came to a conclusion that neither fact proved or disproved and both of them said if we don't kill them, they will die anyway. Furthermore, it had very little to do with the rightiousness of using nukes.
War is bad people get over no matter how much you try there will always be civilians killed and from a military stand point if the civilians dont want to fight a war that side usually ends up loosing i mean look at vietnam americans didnt want to fight it and we lost that war. so actually by bombing civilians you could and probably will end a war.
Actually, Vietnam was a civil war pitting the Communists and Democracy against eachother during the height of the Cold War. Russia supplied the South Vietnamese and we sent troops to help the North Vietnamese. Russia started it, not America. Stop saying it was a pointless war, we were stopping Russia from gaining ground. Russia sent NUKES to Cuba, who's to say they wouldn't do something similar in Vietnam? This was back when NUKES were still taken as an immediate and immenent threat. If Vietnam was taken without American resistance, Russia would have seen it as American weakness and would become more aggressive in their Socialization of the world. If we didn't fight Vietnam, the state of the world would be very different and much more Socialistic. After the eventual fall of America, MAD would cease to exist and NUKES would be thrown around frivolously by the New USSR. The greater part of the world would be a NUCLEAR wasteland.
Now, to the topic at hand, MAD probably stopped all nukes from being used. If we don't have nukes, WE WILL BE KILLED. If we use those nukes, WE WILL BE KILLED. Today, nukes are priceless if you don't have them and worthless if you do.
nukes, worthless if you have them? *WE* still have nukes and it's about the only thing that still saves us from *YOU* sending remote democracy. So for us, they are still priceless. After all, we built nukes in response of United States acting as a worldwide ruling power with their nukes. Though I do agree that if someone will start using nukes, we all will be killed. (Me being Russian, take notice)
I think that the threat of nuclear bombs are their real power. Nobody will put themselves in a situation where nuclear bombs are needed to vbe used against them because they'll die so we will never need to use them so we have the same effect but none of the massive loss of life. If the bomb hadn't been used in Japan many more lives could have been lost and for the dread of nuclear bombs to exist they must've been used somewhere so in a way it may have stopped far greater losses of life. That said, it was still the wrong thing to do even though it was the logical one
No it wasn't. 20,000 people killed themselves, yes. But what about the rest of the population that didn't commit suicide? Why didn't they?
I stated a historical fact and you stated another one that had almost nothing at all to do with it and then came to a conclusion that neither fact proved or disproved and both of them said if we don't kill them, they will die anyway.
hm...what? I never said this...
Furthermore, it had very little to do with the rightiousness of using nukes.
I'm just saying that 99.99% of the people that died where innocent civilians.
so, they killed a couple hundred of us, and we kill them in their millions? excuse me, but that sounds a little bit wrong.
They killed a couple hundred of us unprovoked....... and did the same thing at the same time to four other places....... for the sake of their own domminance and greed....... they deserved it.
