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dehtor
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A recent study has shown that out of thirty industrialized nations America is ranked twenty fourth. if we are not as well educated than are rivals, how are we to stay as a superpower that can contend with countries such as China?

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FireflyIV
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America and England are superpower but also not a good place to live, too many problems, people don't get along and don't want to know each other. Is it really worth it to be superpower? what superpower means to yourself?


England? A superpower? Despite what the BNP would have you believe, we are far from it. We don't have the economic capacity or the military might to be a superpower. We haven't been one since the end of WW2.

Admittedly we do have problems, but with all due respect, I'd much rather be living in England than China.
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Admittedly we do have problems, but with all due respect, I'd much rather be living in England than China.


Says alot about us despite what is outlined in the video I agree with Firefly given the choice I woun't swap.
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England is extremely politically correct. Maddeningly so. But with that comes the freedom to choose what lifestyle you want to live. This of course causes many social problems that have not yet been properly addressed by a pathetic administration, but I am comforted by the fact people in this country have so many options open to them which would not exist in other nations, even in developed ones like the USA.

On top of that China has an atrocious human rights record. Funnily enough the recession will probably stop China from becoming a superpower, but that's another topic.

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On top of that China has an atrocious human rights record. Funnily enough the recession will probably stop China from becoming a superpower, but that's another topic.

Tibet is enough reason for me not to want to live in China, never mind the government controlled media and propaganda. Still, China's becoming pretty powerful in many different elements of society, economy, military, influence ETC., and with such a large workforce and school system, its unsurprising that they're moving at a much faster pace than most other country's. America's become stagnant, and it won't be too long before that stagnancy means we lose whatever advantages we have left.

Our army is...well... large

True, we have a large number of military personal, and some of the most advanced technology in the world when it comes to the military, but it seems that size isn't as much of a factor in military engagements anymore. Effectiveness should be emphasized, not just numbers and technology. Whats the point of having extremely advanced aircraft if they can't be used in today's conflicts, or producing a 4.3 million dollar tank when for the same amount hundreds of sets of body armor could be produced and see much more use, and save more lives?

We aren't serous enough about he value of education and need to be.

I agree. As a student though, I think the difference should be the type of education. Its not worth it too try and stuff information into kids heads. not only does that not work well, but we aren't machines that take things in and can spit them back out. We need to work on learning how to learn, because facts and random bits of information don't get you that far. If anyone's seen that Shift Happens video, its a great example of this. I think that's one of the major reasons why kids in America don't appreciate learning, because to us we're sitting around memorizing things that may be obsolete by the time we graduate.

FireflyIV
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Still, China's becoming pretty powerful in many different elements of society, economy, military, influence ETC., and with such a large workforce and school system, its unsurprising that they're moving at a much faster pace than most other country's. America's become stagnant, and it won't be too long before that stagnancy means we lose whatever advantages we have left.


Interestingly enough though, they will probably be one of the worst hit during this recession. Deindustrialisation and globalisation has meant nations like China have been using their armies of slave labour to export cheap manufactured goods. They rely on the US and other nations buying their products. In this recession people won't and thus China will suffer, very badly as they have become so dependent on that industry.

As for their military, they are a long way to becoming a true superpower. They don't have enough high tech hardware at the moment. Even since the Cold War, Russia still has a much better equipped armed forces and that's not even bringing the USA into the equation. The military might of China is often overstated. For example, the Chinese airforce is often (wrongly) touted as the largest in the world. It has a fleet of 500 aircraft. Us Brits have 300. Russia have 1,000 and the US approximately 1,500. When you put them into perspective they do seem rather weak.

I agree. As a student though, I think the difference should be the type of education. Its not worth it too try and stuff information into kids heads


The problem, according to the theory is not with the education system itself (although that could do with improving) but the attitude of the students. In developing nations the teaching methods are the same yet proportionately they achieve much higher results. The plenty that has existed in developed nations for years has made people lose the fear and the incentive to work, thus education becomes a merit good.
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i think america is going to ba superpower for awhile because the UN is based in new york the USA was one of the founding countries and USA supplies most of the troops no?

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We are a superpower for now, but now that we're on top, we might get cocky and decide we've worked enough on the military. Before we know it, Japan will become more powerful than us. Just a pessimistic outlook, but still, we need to be cautious.

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in the way were going, were gonna just have to sit and enjoy the ride

surfthenet
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superpower means nothin dude

I can buy a BMW and burned it away not like most of u, but does that means anything?

useless thread

dehtor
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Well... the point is that while our education declines other countrys, such as China, education increases. this means if their smarter than us they will overtake us.

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Well... the point is that while our education declines other countrys, such as China, education increases. this means if their smarter than us they will overtake us.


What is it in the shift happens videos... there are more students in the top education bracket in china than there are students in the UK.There are ore of them but their education system must work somewhere.
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I can buy a BMW and burned it away not like most of u, but does that means anything?


more like your parents buy you a BMW, They aren't even that great. the best one 0-100 in like 22 seconds, so please STFU nobody cares if your parents are moderately wealthy.

Well... the point is that while our education declines other countrys, such as China, education increases. this means if their smarter than us they will overtake us.

well because the competition in China is so tough, you have to be always the best otherwise you will lose. Likewise the world wide competition for power, China's mentality is to be the best or be eaten.
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America is definitly a superpower of the world. It's education(how ever much it may be declining) is still much better a vast majority of countries in the world. Actually our education may not be the best but it's still pretty good. The US has a literacy % of 99%. Chaina's is only 86.5%. And when it comes to being a superpower? Foreign realtionships, economic status, and military status are all that really matter. Sure, there are things (like education) that impact those three things, but those are the major issues and right now...America is near the top for all of those, even in economics (it could be soooo much worse than it is right now). To lose the status that we have right now, we would have to REALLY mess up.

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The US has a literacy % of 99%. Chaina's is only 86.5%. And when it comes to being a superpower


CHina's is 90.9% bud.. and also, many of the top positions you mentioned are filled by Chinese, Indian, Jewish, and basically all of the other High performance Minorities....
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Sorry DDX, my bad words. (I finally find someone STFU me, that means somebody read my post, thx)

Well, the competition in China is not tough, i live here. It mostly like no competition here, becoz government controlled everything

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