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Xavier1
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A 14 year old boy is being tried as an adult for shooting his 33 year old, sexually abusive dad dead

I don't think I have seen anything this backwards in my life. I mean, adults don't even get tried as adults for killing people that have repeatedly committed acts like this against them.

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TSL3_needed
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OMFG YOU LIBERAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HOW THE F*CK AM I A LIBERAL?!?!?!?!? I didn't say one politically motivated thing in that paragraph! Wow you idiot. Your so backwards your going to call a freakin' redneck a liberal. I'm moderate conservative in comparison to you. Wow, that's REALLY sad.
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Justice must be served. He is obviously guilty of a premeditated, heinous act if he, quite willingly, gets a high powered rifle and blows his dads brains out, while he's asleep. If it was in self defense, it would be understandable, but asleep? That is the act of an unstable, cowardice child. If he can kill once, he can kill again. Even if sexually or physically abused, murder is NEVER the option. The father obviously didn't think his son would kill him in cold blood, as he left the weapon within easy reach of a child. He may be exempt from the death penalty, but he deserves the maximum sentence.



I find it funny that you think you have the right to call the child a coward. Have you been in that situation? And as for unstable, killing is a natural part of life, while we cannot just go around doing it otherwise we would not progress as a society killing somebody does not make you unstable. And anybody that lacks the abillity to kill also lacks a survival instinct and is an inferior being in my books. Also, it's not like the abuse is only physical, it takes a huge mental toll. When the dad was defensless the poor boy realised he could end the abuse. It's not as open and shut as you say it is.
Xavier1
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HOW THE F*CK AM I A LIBERAL?!?!?!?!? I didn't say one politically motivated thing in that paragraph! Wow you idiot. Your so backwards your going to call a freakin' redneck a liberal. I'm moderate conservative in comparison to you. Wow, that's REALLY sad.


WAY TO TAKE THE BAIT SHIT HEAD!
ChristianPatriot
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EVERYONE CALM THE FUDGE DOWN

i got this shiz.

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He is not being Liberal, he is being a pacifist (pansy).

Overall, what the kid did was right. I think it is gay he has to serve time.

Xavier1
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He might not, it's not over yet but everybody is missing the point! He is 14 and will be serving his time with hardened criminal adults!!!

Ricador
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He might not, it's not over yet but everybody is missing the point! He is 14 and will be serving his time with hardened criminal adults!!!


True, i think that is the biggest bull of all. He will be picked on and traumatized EVEN MORE in there. Have they ever heard of juvy (or justice).
Xavier1
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Exactly, like I said earlier even if eh doesn't get picked on he'll come out as a real criminal.

Wigginometry
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Whether he is a coward or not and whether he was messed up in the head before or after his father abused him is of little consequence. What does matter is this

He is obviously guilty of a premeditated, heinous act if he, quite willingly, gets a high powered rifle and blows his dads brains out, while he's asleep.


When you agree to live in a society you agree to abide by the laws of that society. When he didn't go to the police first and instead took matters into his own hands he broke the law and can therefor be punished accordingly.

As for the adult trial, he certainly murdered like a killer so it sort of makes sense. But as someone mentioned earlier he'll probably claim mental instability and try for some kind of therapy.
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I find it funny that you think you have the right to call the child a coward. Have you been in that situation? And as for unstable, killing is a natural part of life, while we cannot just go around doing it otherwise we would not progress as a society killing somebody does not make you unstable. And anybody that lacks the abillity to kill also lacks a survival instinct and is an inferior being in my books. Also, it's not like the abuse is only physical, it takes a huge mental toll. When the dad was defensless the poor boy realised he could end the abuse. It's not as open and shut as you say it is.


It is quite open and shut. The bolts might be rusty, but it is very open and shut. If we went around just murdering people we would be nothing but a bunch of savages. Murder should only ever be used as a last resort, he could have reported it and gotten counciling. Not shot his dad in the head while he's sleeping. Also, if you read the story, it also hadn't happened in some time, so, he's left with murder. If it had happened recently, he might have gotten off with manslaughter, but, it hadn't happened recently, so there was no sane motive.
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He is not being Liberal, he is being a pacifist (pansy).


If I want the death penalty, how am I being a pansy? But no death penalty, so a life sentence will do. The death penalty is way to underused.
Xavier1
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You have no real time frame there, just estimations. Also, it obviously fucked him up otherwise he wouldn't have done it. And wives and bullied children have gotten off from this kind of thing before. So what he did is within the law. It's just a shakey part that can go either way.

Wigginometry
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So what he did is within the law.


No, it isn't. What if you get pulled over by a cop for speeding and don't get a ticket? You broke the law but got off easy it doesn't mean that the act was "within the law."

And wives and bullied children have gotten off from this kind of thing before.


That doesn't make it alright. You can't break laws and expect to be let off. Maybe the moral aspect has played into these situations before but there are still legal and illegal ways to handle things. Yeah the dad deserved some kind of punishment, no the kid shouldn't have killed him in his sleep. Yes the kid needs help, no he shouldn't necessarily spend his life in prison.
Xavier1
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We learned about it in legal, I can't remember what it's called though. When there is no specific law made for a situation the judge makes it part of the law and gives it a name. That is why lawyers can use previous cases as an agrument, because the actions then become within the law.

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