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Timothy33
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What do you think about the idea that things can be taken two differant ways? What do you know about how things can be Percieved? What is Perception in the first Place... POAST HERE

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DDX
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perception is something that can be analyzed by any of the 5 senses.

I also think this should be in tavern.

Timothy33
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Perception in my view is how we ourselves see everything. We assume that everything we see is reality. Everything we do affects somebody else in the way we intend. Not always does it happen the way we plan it. Perception is alot of things, but one thing it is not is other people. You are the center of your own thought but you must remember others see you differantly than how you see yourself. What are you yourself in the first place. You say you are human, but what is human other than a name given to you to identify yourself with. What is "human"? In the end what it boils down to is that human is an idea. A human has faults, a playoff of the oldest cleche` yet true that none of us are perfect. We manipulite our enviorment to have a favorable outcome for us, but when it doesn't we blame others. This in it'self isn't right. We need to know what we did to cause something before we can blame somebody else for changeing our world.

Timothy33
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The tradition five sences are only the way we have learned to takein and comprehend our enviorment. To most people the world is a manasare of sights. 70% of learning is visual. Blind people have a totally differant view of the world. They learn to understnad what is going on around them thoguh shound, and feel instead of sight.

DDX
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70% of learning is visual


that is not true, I know all the top chefs have to go through a rigorous 3 year course in taste. They would say 63% of learning is through taste.

It is their perception that sight is only a small part of cooking.
Yakooza99K
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Yay, a debate over the definition of a word

Strop
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Evidently you are not cut out for the gruelling world of fee-los-o-fy, Yakooza :P

Which is incidentally why I have chosen to keep this thread here as opposed to moving it to the Tavern.

DDX
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then might as well tack on philosophy at the end of the "religion"

Moegreche
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I will offer up a theory of the definition of a perception. Yes, I'm being so meta-analytic that I can't give a definition, only a theory of the definition. But hear me out.
The term perception has what can be called a "sense" but has no referrant (I don't think there's a English word for the term I'm looking for, but referrant I think is the standard translation in philosophy). Consider a concept like the greatest prime number or Santa Claus. Neither of these things exist, but we still know what someone means by these terms. That is the sense of a word or proposition. Perception is something that is shared by nearly all humans and anyone who perceives things understands what it is - even though a definition might not be possible to give.
I think the reason we can't give a good definition is that even in defining something like perception, we must step outside of it and presuppose the conditions for perception. But this turns more into an explanation of perception and will fall short, i.e. there will be plenty of people who don't agree with the definition.
My proposal here is that perception is so foundational that a definition cannot exist - we must simply understand out shared sense of the concept.

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Perception is just how you view something.

There are plenty of things that can go into it

Your background
How you use the information
Past experience
Etc..

I would post more, but it's late and I'm tired.

But really, perception is what gets people into trouble. It would be hard to find two people who view something the same exact way, thus many arguments arise. If we all had the same perception of things people wouldn't argue nearly as much, but we would also not really be individuals.

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Oh perception~

I'm not gonna make a big post (but I must say that I like Moe's), but...

I love the thought that the way my brain deciphers the light coming off a red object as the colour it does, while any other person might see red as I see green, but in general see everything with the same colour differences.

Perception is a funny thing. It's your impression of the world, yet you can't ever know that it is the only way of perceiving it, or even that your way is right.

Also, extremely cool that other species have more senses than the basic five humans do.

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