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...wouldn't God be able to create a world both with and without suffering simultaneously? Applying any logic to God would be fallacious and unnecessary, because if God is all-powerful, he isn't bound by logic, so logic wouldn't apply.

why so many forums agianst reliogen????

why so many forums agianst reliogen????

why so many forums agianst reliogen????

why so many forums agianst reliogen????

What the hell is reliogen?

I fully agree with you, but good luck dealing with the Christians who are likely to flame this board

I was on Yahoo answers, and there was a person who was not particularly religious who asked a question.

Hmm...I bet you can all see where this is going. A person who's not religious, asking a question, to a crowd of crazy Christians. (Sorry, but those extremists need to get out of the media).

Here was a response the guy got...

But anyway, this all sounds like a cult. Worship the unknown leader, don't ask why, just do it. Admit that you're a sinner, admit you've done wrong, let him be your master. Don't question, no no no don't question, just believe.

Believe it with all your heart and then finally you can go to...Heaven? Why do religious people use Heaven as their bartering tool? I mean, what's so great about it anyway?

It seems like Christians are the ones who try to convert everyone else most the time. I mean most of them aren't like that, but there are too many that are. In my experience Muslims and Jews don't really do that as much.

Yes, but they don't know that they're right. Yet some still insult other people's views and won't accept that there are other theories out there.

My intention was to discuss why major religions seem so much like those little cults you see in the movies. You know, they have their robes and stuff. Of course they are a small religion on their own, but like I said, you'd think that the major religions wouldn't want to be as closely related to those cults.

Really? My religion has gotten this stupid? *thinks about turning antagonostic*

Typo, no need to be a douche

This is a reason why WOMEN have been plagued with unequal rights. Why WOMEN are viewed as the cooks, care takers, and everything else that men are too 'important' to do. The reason why most people dont realize this now is because its been going on for so long, we just assume it just 'happened'.

Well, don't you think its much nicer to spend all eternity in a nice place, filled with the people you love, your friends, family, children and such? Or would you rather spend FOREVER in a burning lake of sulfur, being tortured and in absoulute pain FOREVER.

Ok, I'm going to assume you live in 'western' society. Most of the MAIN relegions in 'western' society is CHRISTIANITY. You hear about people trying to convert other people because its the main religion, and there a heck of a lot more people trying to do it. If you went to Asia, or the Middle East, you'd see people selling Budhas, Korahs and such. There not speaking it, but in a way, there advertising there relegion, and trying to get you to join.

All the wrong sorts of people would get in. The whole point of relegion, is that only the 'correct' or 'right' people get in. In Christianiy, you must believe with all you 'heart, mind, soul, and spirit'. If anybody could get in, it would defeat the whole purpose.

If your gonna bash on Christian and Republican Extremist, Then you need to bash on Muslim Extremist blowing themselves up.

Fair enough, although I'd much rather bash on Christians and Republicans. Plus, I don't like most religions (for various reasons, its not that I hate people who are religious, just the religions themselves), which is why I like to go against Christianity so much. To me, Muslims blowing themselves up is the equivalent of Christians killing people back in the crusades

Read Genesis. God told Adam and Eve NOT to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Do this, and the world would be nice. No sickness, poverty, starvation, etc. A snake told Eve to take a bite, and Eve told Adam to take a bite. And the Rest, is HISTORY! Or, if you don't know, God punished them for their sins by making them work for their food, and making all the bad things that would not have happened if they had obeyed God, become reality.

Although, why would he cause the suffering of billions in the name of two? Is it really a fair and loving of a god to punish so many people for the sins of two, or is he not the merciful god he's painted to be by modern Christianity? Wouldn't this mean everyone goes to hell for the slightest sin, as it disrespects Gods commandments?

Well, don't you think its much nicer to spend all eternity in a nice place, filled with the people you love, your friends, family, children and such? Or would you rather spend FOREVER in a burning lake of sulfur, being tortured and in absoulute pain FOREVER.

See, I have the same issue with this as above. An eternity of pain for a lifetime of sin... plus, in the end, wouldn't heaven ultimately become hell during an eternity in the same place? Also, what happens if you sin in heaven?

Ok, I'm going to assume you live in 'western' society. Most of the MAIN relegions in 'western' society is CHRISTIANITY. You hear about people trying to convert other people because its the main religion, and there a heck of a lot more people trying to do it. If you went to Asia, or the Middle East, you'd see people selling Budhas, Korahs and such. There not speaking it, but in a way, there advertising there relegion, and trying to get you to join.

So...hotels are mega-converters since they give bibles for free???

A) Try Christians Faith.

Trying a persons faith seems a little ridiculous. It seems like he's a vain God that wants to make sure he's loved by everyone before he rewards them. Plus, why is faith so important? If a person follows his will without believing in him (following the bible without realizing it or something like that), by those grounds shouldn't the person be allowed in to heaven? It seems it all comes down to faith, which differs even among Christians, so for all we know half the people who believe in him and follow his will are actually going to end up in hell for not believing in the correct version of him.

All relegions are 'stupid' if you think about it like that. Its just like sports, American football is really just a bunch of guys bashing eachother over a ball. Soccer (or Futbol, I'm part German :P) is just guys kicking a ball. Everything in life is stupid in that mindset. If you think about it like that, why even bother living?

Agreed, although those sports are a shitload of fun. That may be what life's come down to in some areas, living only for enjoyment. The superficial has come to such an extreme that it doesn't seem to make sense anymore. I guess its not that hard, when surrounded by so many fake things, to want to believe in something bigger and better out there...
(That doesn't mean I'm interested in religion, although Buddhism always seems good...)

... what? I think you'd have difficulty finding a pastor or priest or cardinal or whatever that would size a person up who wanted to be a christian & would shut the door in their face.

Well, I think he means the kind of people that don't respect Christianity enough to want to be a part of it. But if they knew God existed, they would join to save themselves. As there isn't proof of Christianity now, the only people who join are people who like being a part of Christianity.

Ok, Let's talk religion. There is a possibility of a divine being. In Christianity, it is told that Adam and Eve eat from the middle tree in a garden (I believe) which is how sin came into life. I do not recall any proof of God creating the earth in the bible. I believe that the Big Bang theory created the universe, but who created human beings? I believe that the two theories alternate between forming the world. A cult, I think, is a closed group of people who have their own religion and practice it with their own traditions

Of course they would - but I think this line of thought also gives merit to the idea that faith is still a virtue; I just don't think it is anymore.

Ok, Let's talk religion. There is a possibility of a divine being. In Christianity, it is told that Adam and Eve eat from the middle tree in a garden (I believe) which is how sin came into life. I do not recall any proof of God creating the earth in the bible. I believe that the Big Bang theory created the universe, but who created human beings?

I think it's a virtue because the idea is not to spread more hate.