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FireflyIV
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I'm not saying this in a disrespectful way, but I can't see that censorship has much of an effect on the amount of users that swear on this site? Most users on here are pretty good in that regard and don't swear anyway, and the ones that aren't just bypass the censor completely by simply putting full stops/spaces/commas between their letters. Wouldn't it just be easier to uncensor everything and just punish the tiny minority that go too far?

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firetail_madness
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I agree with you about how easy it is to bypass the censoring.
I, however, don't see what's wrong with keeping it censored anyways. It would just be more work for the developer to remove the censor. If they want to abuse swearing, let them. The result's all the same.

FireflyIV
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I guess there's no huge problem per se with the censorship system. My point is that it doesn't really serve it's purpose particularly well. If you want to swear you can, is the point I was trying to make.

firetail_madness
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I guess there's no huge problem per se with the censorship system. My point is that it doesn't really serve it's purpose particularly well. If you want to swear you can, is the point I was trying to make.


Well, perhaps you could suggest how to censor it better?
There will always be a way to bypass it...
Aggression
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Well, perhaps you could suggest how to censor it better?
There will always be a way to bypass it...


I've found combining Russian and English characters works quite well.
Green12324
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The point is to keep most of the cursing out. Like you said, most users aren't bad, but for the ones who do cuss it catches most of it. Then there are the ones who get past it, but there aren't too many of those.

I'm generally against most forms of censorship, but it's an exception here since younger kids are here. Yes, it's a PG-13 site, but 13 is still a bit young to see a lot of cussing.

FireflyIV
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There will always be a way to bypass it...
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Which brings me back to the question, what's the point if people will swear anyway. I say remove all censorship, which would serve the purpose of being able to write 'Charles Dickens' and 'Population' again, and trust in the maturity of the users of the site not to abuse the system. It wouldn't be any worse than it is now, as long as those who did abuse the system were adequately punished.
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. . .to keep the squeamish, easily-offended people who are too deep in society to not get offended over sounds our vocal cords make from squealing. Really, I think it's more immature to object to swearing - they're just sounds emitted from our vocal cords or arrangements of characters on a page. They're just words, and words carry too much weight if the merer utterance of a word can offend someone. I'd still get offended if they were meant to insult, but mere utterance of a curse word isn't and shouldn't be cause for offense. It's immature whininess, goddammit.

Personally, the censor fails a lot. . .asses and rapes are still unblocked, I'm pretty sure. and a Scandinavian curse word, 'u.la,' was blocked. So now, the word 'opu.lar' has a swath of asterisks through it.

The censor here is epic fail.

FireflyIV
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Wait a sec, I can say 'opulation' again! Lords be praised!

skater_kid_who_pwns
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It's a PG-13 site. No thirteen yearmold has not heared swearing, and if they haven't, can they really be fit to be called a person? It's part of life, and really it's a word. It is nothing bad. the only thing bad is the meaning given to it.

Personally, swearing has never gugged me, and ihate how it is shunned basically all over the world.

thisisnotanalt
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They fixed it? Nevermind then.

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Green12324
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They fixed it? Nevermind then.

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Lol, why would they censor those words?
FireflyIV
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Apparently 'u-lu' meant penis in Russian. I made a thread about it a while ago. Look my brothers see what can happen when censorship goes too far?!

Green12324
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Apparently 'u-lu' meant penis in Russian.


According to Google translations "Pu-lu", &quoto-pu", and &quotu-la" are all English...weird. And according to dictionary.com, none of them have anything to do with anything like that. I wonder why it doesn't censor penis in English if it will in Russian (or whatever language it thinks that is?)
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Try looking &quotula" up on urbandictionary.com.

The only reason that got censored is because it became an issue. Same with a couple of other words.

The censor is easy to bypass. But your ban will be longer if you go to that effort rather than if you just mindlessly swear at others.

As far as I see it, the point of censorship is to discourage people from swearing at each other and thus starting flame wars.
If you think it's silly to censor words, I'll counter that with a: It's silly that you miss those words. You do not need them.

Except for the rare times where they can be part of an intelligent conversation/discussion.

Green12324
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Try looking &quotula" up on urbandictionary.com.


Ah...Romanian. Interesting.

But your ban will be longer if you go to that effort rather than if you just mindlessly swear at others.


Oh ya, I didn't think of that. Most people won't bypass the filters because of that reason. I mean bypassing them by inserting your own asterisks, but leaving a few letters seems fine. Just so people don't put the wrong word there and get the wrong idea. But there's always those people who go out of their way to get everything in there.
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