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valkyrie1119
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It might or might not exist. It's the study of how life on Earth could have arisen from inanimate matter. In essence, its chemical evolution, but should not be confused with evolution. It says the amino acids, also know as "the building blocks of life" can form via natural chemical reactions unrelated to life. In all living things, these amino acids are organized into proteins, and the construction of these proteins is mediated by nucleic acids. Thus the question of how life on Earth originated is a question of how the first nucleic acids arose. So what do you think of abiogenesis?

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deserteagle
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In Bio I was taught that these thermal volcanic vents spewed out all the elements like carbon, oxygen, hydrogen, phosphorus, nitrogen, etc.
the elements bonded and thus creating amino acids, which gave rise to proteins. Scientists are still researching this topic, but I read in Scientific American that there was a protien based DNA or PNA.

Also If I remember correctly some guy threw in the elements in slat water and added an electrical charge to the water. a week later he found amino acids in it. Wish I knew the name...

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Ha so you just decided to start a thread on abiogenesis? This thread is guarnateed to be full of debates of creationism vs evolution which we already have a thread for. We'll see how it goes, but I'm certain that is what will happen.

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Ha so you just decided to start a thread on abiogenesis? This thread is guarnateed to be full of debates of creationism vs evolution which we already have a thread for. We'll see how it goes, but I'm certain that is what will happen.


That shouldn't happen. If it does, it's going completely off topic. Which I guess is a reason for the lockness monster.

I think it's true. Life had to start somewhere after all. Life just doesn't appear. It takes something to start life. And that is what starts life.
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Ha so you just decided to start a thread on abiogenesis? This thread is guarnateed to be full of debates of creationism vs evolution which we already have a thread for. We'll see how it goes, but I'm certain that is what will happen.


Probably will EstelTree, Probably will.

CREATIONISM FTW!!!!!!
I'm joking.

Abiogenesis. Sounds like a plausible idea but I woudn't support it.

Being a Creationist that I am, I do believe that God Created the Earth and blah blah blah.
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That shouldn't happen. If it does, it's going completely off topic. Which I guess is a reason for the lockness monster



I love the lockness monster!!

Back on topic




So what do you think of abiogenesis?


I think its true as Tsl said life had to start somewhere its not like we grew from a plant lol.
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Funny how Estel actually spurred on the off-topic by warning against it. XD

But this. Yeah, I've read about it before. If you're gonna believe in evolution (which I do), you have to start somewhere, and somewhere very small.

The theory is that a lightning or something struck a puddle of these little acids, right? How long ago does scientists estimate this to have happened?

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eh?

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Abiogenesis, well I believe that it's true. I'm not expert though...so yeah...that's about all I have, lol. I don't know enough to really talk a lot about it.

However, one argument against it that I've heard matter has to come from somewhere to start out with, and abiogenesis doesn't answer where that first matter came from. All I have to say is that no one can tell us where the first matter came from, so abiogenesis is just as plausible as the next theory.

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Also If I remember correctly some guy threw in the elements in slat water and added an electrical charge to the water. a week later he found amino acids in it. Wish I knew the name...


I think your talking about the Miller experiment There's a few problems with it though, while he did create some amino acids the majority were poisons and the rest died, also there wouldn't have been a water trap billions of years ago and the trap is actually what helped the few that were created to be created (I believe.)

I'm a creationist so why I don't think this happened I realize it could I just don't think it did.
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There are more modern experiments then Miller's - and far more successful. This isn't really a debate... they've done it in a lab. Non-organic compounds given exposure to other non-organic compounds, heat & water, can form ribonucleotides.

Abiogenesis is scientifically possible.

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My big question is how did all the little organisms come to exsist in the first place? Even non-organic stuff had to come from somewhere so where did all of it come from?

valkyrie1119
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Abiogenesis could answer your question Mr.Monkey.

bretttrumpour
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My big question is how did all the little organisms come to exsist in the first place? Even non-organic stuff had to come from somewhere so where did all of it come from?



It dosent come from any where its already here.
MrMonkey3
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How did the amino acids get there? In my mind it seems like everything had to begin at some point but how would there be something from nothing? obviously something has been there for literally all eternity either god or these materials. Maybe I just dont have a grasp of time well enough to understand but thats what it seems like to me.

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Abiogenesis theory says that prokaryotes, earliest form of life, rose from inanimate matter through chemical reactions.

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