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Krizaz
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Since so many people are clueless to what Atheism really is let me explain in some quiet simple terms to anyone who is willing to read a paragraph or two.

And automatically this turns into a flame thread, it's not what I intended but with the help of some trolls it's inevitable.

Atheism: Most of us know that Atheism is the belief that there is no God, simple right? No. When people even hear the word atheism they think 'evil' I used to think that too, until I was about 8 and finally realized what atheism was, which is whats happening all over the country. Were not told what atheism means, just that it's bad, which breeds great prejudice into us. So when believers think about non-believers they basically white-out all of Atheist arguments, and won't shut-up about their own arguments, which about half of it is around the bible.

Libral: When unaffiliated people think of Liberal, they think democrat. When conservatives (right side) think of liberal, they think idiots. When educated people of liberal, they think open-minded, which is the base of being liberal. Heck, if you want to search Liberal the first thing you see is "Broad-Minded". It's strange people think "Broad or open-Mindedness" is a bad thing, don't we want to try new things? Don't we need to try new things? Liberals also think a lot alike, much like conservatives do. Were almost always pro-choice, pro-health, and pro something to let Mexicans become US citizens with out all the hassle. Liberals are much like the first generation X people, but more intelligent, and were not just trying to end the wars.

Let the flames die! Referring to the flaming that will happen.

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Green12324
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Hmm...I'm not really sure what could come out of this thread other than flaming.

I'm curious as to what political party you belong to. Because if you are a liberal, well that's going to discredit everything you just said about us being open minded. Sure, we think we are, but conservatives think that they are.

donpiet
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So when believers think about non-believers they basically white-out all of Atheist arguments, and won't shut-up about their own arguments, which about half of it is around the bible.


well it is great that you talk about all the prejudice towards atheists, and are giving an example of prejudice against any religous person in one sentence.
if you try to inform someone about something than keep your post on an factual level and do not try to implement your beliefs.

ere not told what atheism means, just that it's bad,


another expample of generalization.
as said before if you want to inform and not start a heated debate, than keep a post factual and do not throw prejuidices and generalizations around.
Graham
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there are too many naive stereotypes about "what groups think"

if you want a definition go here!

samy
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I kinda feel like your entire liberal post is entirely biased.


When unaffiliated people think of Liberal, they think democrat. When conservatives (right side) think of liberal, they think idiots.


I think of people with a different way of thinking than me not idiots.

It's strange people think "Broad or open-Mindedness" is a bad thing, don't we want to try new things? Don't we need to try new things?


Most people think it's a good thing actually, then again keeping an open mind does mean trying new things yet both conservatives and liberals have been stuck in the same ruts for centuries. Also some times keeping an open mind leads to a closed mind because you begin to think things like well what your post said.

Liberals are much like the first generation X people, but more intelligent, and were not just trying to end the wars.


More intelligent hmm, to whom I wonder?
HiddenDistance
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there are too many naive stereotypes about "what groups think"
if you want a definition go here!


I concur wholeheartedly.


To Krizaz - you... didn't really define atheism at all in that paragraph. Nor.. 'liberal' really. I mean..

Most of us know that Atheism is the belief that there is no God, simple right? No.


And then go on to talk about how other groups view atheists. That's not really anything to do with atheism itself.
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By the way, an atheist is someone who doesn't follow religion. I'm technically atheist, yet I believe in god. That's via the literal meaning.

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Maverick4
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If the conservative (right-wint) people think of Liberal people as 'idiots', then wouldnt that mean that the 'intelligent' people thinking of liberals would most likely be liberal them selves?

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Ugh, so biased and one sided.

When conservatives (right side) think of liberal, they think idiots.

No. Many just think "i don't agree with them."

When educated people [think] of liberal, they think open-minded, which is the base of being liberal.

So all educated people are liberal? Stereotype.

Liberals also think a lot alike, much like conservatives do. Were almost always pro-choice, pro-health, and pro something to let Mexicans become US citizens with out all the hassle.

I know many pro-life liberals. I don't know anyone who is "anti-health" so I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. And I know PLENTY of liberals who want to close off the border.

This who argument is full of stereotypes, biases, prejudices, and inaccuracies. Terrible.

donpiet
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Atheism can be either the rejection of theism,[1] or the position that deities do not exist.[2] In the broadest sense, it is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.[3]

By the way, an atheist is someone who doesn't follow religion. I'm technically atheist, yet I believe in god. That's via the literal meaning.


if you believe in a deity you are technically a not an atheist by definiton.
whether or not you follow a religion is completely irrelevant for determing whether someone is or is not an atheist.
you can also follow a religion and be atheist, though it does not make much sense
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an atheist.


I am an atheist as well. And quite frankly i'd have to agree with comrade Krizaz that a lot of people don't know what atheism is. But Atheism just means that you don't have a religion!
donpiet
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But Atheism just means that you don't have a religion!


well according to any definition found on this topic it means that you neglect the existence of a deity.
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if you believe in a deity you are technically a not an atheist by definiton

rejection of theism


Hehe, contradiction.

Which is exactly what I do. Theism is the belief in theology, and by extention, religion. I am not a fan of religion, or theism of any type, so I am atheist.
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Krizaz, thanks for clarifying what a liberal really is and hopefully shutting up some of the right winged nut jobs out there. You are a true example of what a humanbeing should be like, open minded and not ignorant.

donpiet
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. Theism is the belief in theology


well not entirely true. heres the definition by wikipedia.

Theism in the broadest sense is the belief in at least one deity


speaks for itself i think
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Krizaz, thanks for clarifying what a liberal really is and hopefully shutting up some of the right winged nut jobs out there. You are a true example of what a humanbeing should be like, open minded and not ignorant.

Yes, saying that ALL conservatives think Liberals are stupid is being open-minded. He's just as fascist as the next guy.

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