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Graham
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An age old debate with brother... Is time man-made or has it always been there?

You could say "time has always been there, in the form of new stars and revolutions" or "time is man-made, humans came up with the way to tell time in the form of revolutions!"

So is time really just a measuring stick?

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Cenere
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Man made. It is a definition made by human to explain and measure when something happened.
Funnily enough it is much like fiction, as it can be defined by the person who is experiencing it.

donpiet
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well it depends,
time in the form we know it, splitting everything in minutes hours and so on, is a made man scale.

but time is mostly a measurement of change. and since everything chages constantly, time has always been there

Jacques
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Time has always been there but humans came up wit a way to see time

pauler94
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Time can only be witnessed by any living creature. That's what I think. It makes sense, because if you're dead, you can't witness time.

Graham
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@man-made what would you call before living creatures?

@alwaysthere time is measurement of change, can there be time with no measureer?

i'm really open to both

Darkroot
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Time is just a nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.

Time is said to be a dimension or it might have started when the big bang occured or as a result of the expansion of the universe.

donpiet
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@alwaysthere time is measurement of change, can there be time with no measureer?


the change itself measures it. so as you have change, you have time.

you are not able to say how much time passed though
firetail_madness
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"Time" is something made by humans. Time always existed, it's just the word never did and there are different ways of interpreting it. It's hard to explain and understand...

Cenere
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@man-made what would you call before living creatures?

Is there an actual word for that?
Let me explain it like this: We think/are conscious. We are aware of time passing/changes happening/people aging, and thus made a word for this: "Time". We define it, we live in it. We control it just as much as it control us.

Before consciousness was an issue, I guess things just changed. No one was there to notice "time going" or the changes happening anyway, so it does not really matter.
donpiet
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Before consciousness was an issue, I guess things just changed. No one was there to notice "time going" or the changes happening anyway, so it does not really matter.


only because noone notices it does not make it not happening.
i mean if you would say that things only exist, if a conscious being realize them, then you would come to a conclusion that the universe did not exist before mankind.
and we know that this is untrue
ligaboy
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Time is man-made, however it was made based mainly on astronomy. So really, time has always been there, just not the way humans perceive it. Hard to explain.

Cenere
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only because noone notices it does not make it not happening.
i mean if you would say that things only exist, if a conscious being realize them, then you would come to a conclusion that the universe did not exist before mankind.
and we know that this is untrue

The definition of time, the existence of the concept time, has only existed as long as the conscious mind. The concept of Universe has only existed that long as well. It was not "the Universe" before the conscious mind decided to describe it as such.
The existence of time might have been there, but it was not time before it was realized by the mind.
It is quite simple, really, as everything is subjective to the person seeing or experiencing something.
Time is just as subjective as anything. I might say it was 30 minutes since I last posted, you might say it was a hour, but without using a "device to control time" we cannot be sure who is right? It is because we invent time over and over again.
Zophia
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and we know that this is untrue
Do we?
dacer
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imo there is no time, everything really can't be explained without .... facts. time is just another question of man, was there meant to be a measurement of the universe's life? or somthing of the same matter. time is not used by that which cannot think or have no life whatsoever. the universe was a word created by our race, anything we think is "already there" aside from what is physically seen, can not really be somthing that has exsisted since the beggining.

unless god is real (i beleive he is but im also a logical thinker o.O) there is no rational explanation of time other then humans creating it.

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Here's how I perceive it: All things in the universe age, man created time simply to measure how much of the aging process it has gone through and to mark important events in history om the metaphorical "meauring stick" that is time.


Maybe a few flaws in my theory here and there, but I've recently started seeing time thusly.

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