First of all why is there not a thread about this yet ? Second of all don't play stupid with me , please don't . I want to know why you liberal activists think thees patriotic people who go to thees meeting angry mobs ? Why do you say that they are just angry maniac people ? When all they are doing is pronouncing there right of speech .
You know what I think , I think thees patriotic people are tired of there senators , congress , ect.. that keep lying to them! And the people aren't TEENAGERS there old people! You know why , because they are going to get hit the hardest right now from this idiotic health care bill .
Never mind I have two questions :
Do you believe thees people are angry mobs or patriotic people who care about America ?
Second do you think this health care plan should be passed or thrown in the garbage ?
Well, enough off topic, although that's a little short.
1. A bit of both. While I don't know much on the subject, I would imagine they care about their country just as much as they dislike it's leaders. They're patriotic in my opinion, just a little pissed off. Hence the angry mob.
2. Something I know a bit about. By the way, can someone provide a link for the ENTIRE 1300 page bill for me? Completely uncensored?
The health care bill is complete BS, as far as I know. I don't care about the 7-15% of people (Which by some ill luck includes me) without health care, or whether they can of can't afford it, but the majority who can and like it. With extremely cheap plans such as Cinergy, You Can, etc. we don't need government interference, when we already have cheap basic to moderate care available to us. The only health care is that of voluntary health care, no involuntary, as that completely goes against government interference laws which plague many countries. First health care, then what? Police states? That's how it always works out. Once the government can crush one sector of business, they can crush whatever else they want. Simple chain reactions.
Do you believe thees people are angry mobs or patriotic people who care about America ?
Neither, wether they are angry mobs or patriots is a matter of opinion. It's basically wasking if you are for health care reform or not. If you are for it, they are angry mobs made up of idiots, if you are against it they are patriots expressing their political views.
First health care, then what? Police states? That's how it always works out. Once the government can crush one sector of business, they can crush whatever else they want. Simple chain reactions.
Is Canada a police state? Germany?
And I have a question. As I am not American I don't know much about Health Care Reform their. He must be proposing a mixture of private and public health care, as moving directly to public would be too much of a leap to happpen all at once. Although it should happen eventually
Well, I think it should lead to that. You'd think he would've had some sort of buffer zone, say 5 years or so. Rather than just dumping this on the business' laps.
But I don't disagree with the end result, good health care for everyone in the country.
Although I'm not sure America is the kind of country that can afford it, a government funded health care system is quite expensive and requires paying lots of taxes.
I totally agree with it, but I'm not American. Will America go for it?
Lets do some pretty basic math of how much moderate care will cost. Lets say, $2,000 per year, per citizen. Which we've got about 350,000,000 of, unlike Canada's' only 30,000,000 of, and even then you guys got a pretty big tax, no? $2,000/citizen/year x 350,000,000 = $700,000,000,000. Where are we going to get that kind of money might I ask?
Rob Emanuel (Obama's spokeperson guy) told the public to report any other American that doesn't agree with Obama's health care plan so that they can be flagged as a national security threat.
Rob Emanuel (Obama's spokeperson guy) told the public to report any other American that doesn't agree with Obama's health care plan so that they can be flagged as a national security threat.
I saw that. I'm thinking about telling the NSA to kiss my arse and spam the site. I'm normally very against spam, but quite frankly, the government doesn't go under my umbrella of protection.
Do you believe thees people are angry mobs or patriotic people who care about America ?
i think: think they're patriotic form mob mentality there which may lead to some nationalism
People who are against: see a threat and want to eliminate it do not think of the founding father's situation
Second do you think this health care plan should be passed or thrown in the garbage ?
i'm tired of having to disprove it 1/20 threads.
if this passes: a government official will decide if you're sick enough old people will be cut from program the quality would be set low because of no competition and the rate of pay about 85% of americans that are currently happy w/ their health care will be unhappy debt
a government official will decide if you're sick enough old people will be cut from program the quality would be set low because of no competition and the rate of pay about 85% of americans that are currently happy w/ their health care will be unhappy debt
a government official will decide if you're sick enough
As opposed to a private company official who has to care for the interest of his shareholders and therefore is inclined to deny requests?
old people will be cut from program
Where are you getting this from?
the quality would be set low because of no competition and the rate of pay
Who's talking about no competition, the Obama administration is constantly talking about introducing a government program to promote competition with the insurance industry and drive down costs.
about 85% of americans that are currently happy w/ their health care will be unhappy
Why is this? Their health care plans won't change, and most of them won't see tax increases, so why will they now be unhappy?
debt
Maybe we can finally cut military spending like we should have done after the fall of the USSR.
Maybe we can finally cut military spending like we should have done after the fall of the USSR.
We put about 300-400 billion a year into military. About 700 will go to health care, and that's with a below average plan. We can have go all the way up to 2 TRILLION dollars with health care alone.
