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PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING

Now you're probably opening this thinking "oh great another rant on religion", well you're right. But please keep reading on because what I have to say is important and applies to all beliefs, even if you don't have one.

Many religions now believe the world is going to end, soon. Basically they believe this because of "signs" and their precious magic books. Well the scary thing is the world could end soon, and religion could actually be its cause. The fact is, for the world to live on religion must die. Faith is nothing to brag about it, and people who accept faith, or preach it are just intellectual slaveholders. Religion has caused so much craziness and destruction and I think 9/11 is a great example, however I won't get into it much because of everything else I have to say.

Now, why is religion so powerful? Because it allows people who DON'T have the answer to what happens when we die to think they do. If you're a christian or any other religion you may think it's great to say "PLEASE GOD I'M WILLING! I'LL DO ANYTHING YOU ASK OF ME!" Well guess what, there are no gods talking to us so that void is filled in by corrupt and often hostile people.

This is why anti-religious rationalists must come out of the freakin closet and let themselves be heard. And for those of you who only consider yourselves "a little religious", is the safe feeling of believing in a religion worth the pain and destruction it causes? If you belonged to a social group that wasn't a religion that involved so much bigotry, homophobia, violence, and ignorance as religions you would quit the club and protest against it. And if the end of the world comes because of nuclear arms led by religious nut jobs... just remember what the true problem was. We found a way to end lives on a mass scale before we stopped wishing for it.

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kmnv
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its so illegal

Lieutenut
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If I had the choice I would never ban religious institutions now... maybe in 150-200 years or so, depending if the atheism trend continues. If we banned it now though it would just cause even more destruction... and the only reason I'd ban it in 150-200 years is so we don't have to worry about religion coming back.

Lieutenut
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...I don't know what to say, its like you don't respect anyone's beliefs.


how is that? I think everyone has the right to believe what they want...
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I DON'T THINK ALL PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN A RELIGION ARE CRAZY, ONLY ONES THAT THINK THEY HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD AND STUFF LIKE THAT... AND ALSO THE LEADERS AND EXTREMISTS!!!!!


You said this back on page 20.

I think everyone has the right to believe what they want...


If I had the choice I would never ban religious institutions now... maybe in 150-200 years or so, depending if the atheism trend continues. If we banned it now though it would just cause even more destruction... and the only reason I'd ban it in 150-200 years is so we don't have to worry about religion coming back.


So you say religion and freedom of choice is good, but now you say you want to out law it. Tell me again; you said the people who believe in it aren't crazy, then what's the problem?
You kinda contradicted your self there.
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So you say religion and freedom of choice is good, but now you say you want to out law it. Tell me again; you said the people who believe in it aren't crazy, then what's the problem?
You kinda contradicted your self there.


Yes, they do have the right to choose... but I said in 150-200 years if the atheism trend continued then all of the US's population would be atheist right? So then why not ban religious institutions if all they were doing was taking up room anyways? Then at least we wouldn't have to worry about religions coming back

(and yes I'm just talking about the US in this example, not worldwide.... but if the world was all atheist then yes, why not ban religious institutions?)
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you said the people who believe in it aren't crazy, then what's the problem?


The problem is the crazy religious leaders and extremists, they're usually the crazy ones.
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Well first of all...

(FIRST POST AS WOOD DUKE)


Congratz :P

and 2nd of all read my last 2 posts.
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Why get rid of them? They are a part of our history and even heritage also not EVERYONE will be Atheist those are just statistics, things can change.


I was just saying if everyone was why not?

and also if they are so important to our history and heritage we can put them in a magical building called a museum lol
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Yes, they do have the right to choose... but I said in 150-200 years if the atheism trend continued then all of the US's population would be atheist right? So then why not ban religious institutions if all they were doing was taking up room anyways? Then at least we wouldn't have to worry about religions coming back


Assuming the US is still around and we survive WW3; we cannot ban religion thanks to a paragraph called "The First Amendment".
Second: How does Religion take up room? Do you mean physical space? are temples and mosques to big?
Third: Why are you so Gung-Ho on eliminating religion? You said your self it wasn't bad.

he problem is the crazy religious leaders and extremists, they're usually the crazy ones.


Agreed. Those people are the ones that give us trouble, BUT they make up a very low percentage that it's unfair to categorize/stereotype they extremist in with the rest of the religion. An example: Not all Muslims are terrorists.
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Assuming the US is still around and we survive WW3; we cannot ban religion thanks to a paragraph called "The First Amendment".
Second: How does Religion take up room? Do you mean physical space? are temples and mosques to big?
Third: Why are you so Gung-Ho on eliminating religion? You said your self it wasn't bad.


We can make another Amendment stating that religion is allowed to be banned in the case that no one believes in it anymore. And yes I meant physical space. And third, I think you may have misread me in the first post I made on this thread I said that religion has to be eliminated...
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That's seriously like impressively biased, no joke. Even if everyone is atheist they won't want to. Plus other countries don't even give a flying f8ck about what religion their people followed.


Why wouldn't they want to? As a matter of fact why would they even care? I guess you two have convinced me however that it would be wrong to outlaw religion even if everyone was atheist =/ I still hate religion and will fight for its downfall Because no matter what you can't ignore the fact that it's caused violence, destruction, and misery.
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Good luck against 6 billion people dude :P


lol...thanks? I think I have about 10-15% of americans on the same boat as me :P All you need is one little spark (rationalists) and some good tinder (open-minded and logical people) to create a fire (the fire being end to religion).
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Well there are 6 billion other people who would loveto kick your a*s lol


Yeah.... I'll say this again, kicking someone's a*s in the name of religion is exactly what I was talking about when I say religion causes violence lol...

and also is very much what jesus preached!.... oh wait no it's not =/ ya very christian like of those people lol
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You iz one atheist bent on the distruction of religion, do you really want to piss people of?


If it means I get to let my voice be heard then yes... yes I do. They're free to voice their opinion and so am I and remember this

People like me may be bent on destroying religion, however religion is bent on destroying people like me.
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Personally, I think that in religion, the good runs parallel to the bad.


In that the religion itself, the hierarchy of the religion, is bad, but the people peacefully following the religfion aren't necessarily bad.

For example, even though Christianity has led to eras of hate and death, I wouldn't call Christians evil, but the actions of the religion as a collective evil. As Gandhi said, 'hate the sin, love the sinner.' I'd say that, in many ways, religion is like that. Of course, I don't consider religion a sin, just a belief.

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